WhiteSox2023 Posted Friday at 01:54 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:54 AM (edited) 7 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said: Definitely seems like the international side is his specialty. Wonder if he was drawn more by the AGM title or maybe the opportunity to expand his responsibilities/experience beyond that. Probably both. He gets the better job title but also gets to stick in his own niche and work on what he is proficient at. Edited Friday at 01:54 AM by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukakke Appling Posted Friday at 02:00 AM Author Share Posted Friday at 02:00 AM 12 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said: Definitely seems like the international side is his specialty. Wonder if he was drawn more by the AGM title or maybe the opportunity to expand his responsibilities/experience beyond that. The German Marquez talk in a different thread had me wondering if Rodriguez had any involvement in his signing as an amateur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Friday at 02:26 AM Share Posted Friday at 02:26 AM (edited) 26 minutes ago, Lukakke Appling said: The German Marquez talk in a different thread had me wondering if Rodriguez had any involvement in his signing as an amateur. Jul 11, 2021 · "So Rays scout Mario Gonzalez, father of Red Sox multi-positional player Marwin Gonzalez, signed Márquez for $200,000. Days later, the Rockies ..." Nope. But had to have been aware, peripherally involved. Edited Friday at 02:27 AM by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Friday at 02:35 AM Share Posted Friday at 02:35 AM (edited) https://yanksgoyard.com/yankees-international-prospect-crisis-just-took-a-brutal-turn-if-rumors-are-true Sounds like Yankees intl. scouting shop was a complete mess. Rodriguez chose the relative sanity/stability of the White Sox (until at least 2029.) https://risingapple.com/ny-mets-humiliate-yankees-shoplift-top-international-prospect-wandy-asigen&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwip2KyQz8iRAxVrDzQIHXgjJBoQFnoECAcQAg&usg=AOvVaw34QRKdblOLfDFyUiSR727I "At 16, it’s ridiculously premature to declare this a major victory for the Mets as easily as it is an embarrassment for the Yankees. Any other team losing the second ranked international prospect to the Mets wouldn’t be as much of a story. Going to the Mets, a day after Luke Weaver, to a team that has already stacked itself with ex-Yankees players and coaches, makes it a twist a uniquely Big Apple story at the moment " Fwiw, Mets' last big intl. success was SS Jose Reyes ages ago...1999 signing. Edited Friday at 02:44 AM by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted Friday at 05:53 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:53 PM https://www.southsidesox.com/chicago-white-sox-commentary-and-analysis/118790/raiding-the-rays-and-red-sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted Friday at 07:01 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:01 PM now official Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caulfield12 Posted Friday at 08:04 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:04 PM (edited) https://www.draysbay.com/2025/1/16/24345209/rays-2025-international-prospects-signing-tracker Most interesting note here is that the Rays have/had significant interest in Roki Sasaki and a good relationship with his agent. Went through their full $7.5 million 2025 international signing pool in less than 24 hours. An actual seat at the table...? Edited Friday at 08:06 PM by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted Saturday at 06:47 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:47 PM Since last offseason, how many trades have we made with the Rays? At least 4 right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM 7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Since last offseason, how many trades have we made with the Rays? At least 4 right? I think real question is what percentage of our 40 man roster is made up of former Rays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted Saturday at 07:00 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:00 PM 12 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Since last offseason, how many trades have we made with the Rays? At least 4 right? waivers Brandon Eisert Mike Vasil Jesse Scholtens to Rays Tristan Peters trades Jankowski sold to Rays Thaiss for Dru Baker Tristan Gray sold to Houser for Mead/Davitt/Peoples Gomez/Wilson for Pereira/Murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Saturday at 07:31 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:31 PM 30 minutes ago, WestEddy said: waivers Brandon Eisert Mike Vasil Jesse Scholtens to Rays Tristan Peters trades Jankowski sold to Rays Thaiss for Dru Baker Tristan Gray sold to Houser for Mead/Davitt/Peoples Gomez/Wilson for Pereira/Murray Rumors the Rays are trying to put together a significant package for Ketel Marte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted Saturday at 07:37 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:37 PM 6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Rumors the Rays are trying to put together a significant package for Ketel Marte. Did the White Sox somehow obtain Marte in a deal we haven't heard about, yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Saturday at 08:33 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:33 PM 55 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Did the White Sox somehow obtain Marte in a deal we haven't heard about, yet? That might clear out half the system. Where would he play lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted Saturday at 08:40 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:40 PM 6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: That might clear out half the system. Where would he play lol? Why are you talking about Marte in response to a convo about what deals the Rays and White Sox made together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted Sunday at 12:48 AM Share Posted Sunday at 12:48 AM The Marlins GM came from the Rays. In 2 years they were close to .500 in a tough division while Getz is celebrating 2 100 loss seasons. I like to nickname the Marlins as Reinsdorf South. Getz could play the blame game but last I heard he was a minor league director before being "promoted". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Sunday at 02:01 AM Share Posted Sunday at 02:01 AM 1 hour ago, kitekrazy said: The Marlins GM came from the Rays. In 2 years they were close to .500 in a tough division while Getz is celebrating 2 100 loss seasons. I like to nickname the Marlins as Reinsdorf South. Getz could play the blame game but last I heard he was a minor league director before being "promoted". Not only that.. but battling the Mets Braves Phillies in the same division. Getz doesn't have that "financial heavyweights" card to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago https://www.draysbay.com/2021/2/22/22265255/carlos-rodriguez-tampa-bay-rays-2021-covid-19-challenges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fielder Jones Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago You wanna be the Rays? Then you'd trade Robert now. They are always moving talent while the talent interests the league. They dont care if the guy looks good on a bobblehead promotion. When assets are offered up, that guy is gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Fielder Jones said: You wanna be the Rays? Then you'd trade Robert now. They are always moving talent while the talent interests the league. They dont care if the guy looks good on a bobblehead promotion. When assets are offered up, that guy is gone. The Rays would have traded him years ago, like we should have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fielder Jones Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago well they just hired the Rays guy but - yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, Fielder Jones said: You wanna be the Rays? Then you'd trade Robert now. They are always moving talent while the talent interests the league. They dont care if the guy looks good on a bobblehead promotion. When assets are offered up, that guy is gone. https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-white-sox/seeking-an-edge-white-sox-add-proven-rays-executive-carlos-rodriguez/ They would have traded him after 2023. Definitely held on to Randy Arozarena too long. Of course, actually trading a guy like Robert at peak is easier said than done. It also represents surrender of sorts to the fanbase. The Sox held on to Anderson, Cease and most of their players too long, in hindsight. Part of that was obviously injuries as well, see Moncada/Eloy/Hendriks/Kopech. Trading Crochet was the one guy who worked out well, Giolito too, I guess. Edited 11 hours ago by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-white-sox/seeking-an-edge-white-sox-add-proven-rays-executive-carlos-rodriguez/ They would have traded him after 2023. Definitely held on to Randy Arozarena too long. Of course, actually trading a guy like Robert at peak is easier said than done. It also represents surrender of sorts to the fanbase. The Sox held on to Anderson, Cease and most of their players too long, in hindsight. Part of that was obviously injuries as well, see Moncada/Eloy/Hendriks/Kopech. Trading Crochet was the one guy who worked out well, Giolito too, I guess. No, actually, they would have traded him by the 2023 trade deadline. I mean, if we're going to play 20/20 hindsight, do the whole gameboard, not just the parts that pretend you were clairvoyant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 15 minutes ago, WestEddy said: No, actually, they would have traded him by the 2023 trade deadline. I mean, if we're going to play 20/20 hindsight, do the whole gameboard, not just the parts that pretend you were clairvoyant. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/ranking-the-prospects-traded-during-the-2023-deadline/ Manzardo Gilbert Acuna and Quero were the Four biggest names traded. Try again. Everything is going to be a hypothetical. Most posters believed there was no possible prospect that would have remotely captured his actual value at that moment in time...because the risk was so high it could all blow up later on down the line based on the ups and downs of 2020-2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 7 hours ago, caulfield12 said: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/ranking-the-prospects-traded-during-the-2023-deadline/ Manzardo Gilbert Acuna and Quero were the Four biggest names traded. Try again. Everything is going to be a hypothetical. Most posters believed there was no possible prospect that would have remotely captured his actual value at that moment in time...because the risk was so high it could all blow up later on down the line based on the ups and downs of 2020-2022. nevermind Edited 2 hours ago by WestEddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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