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Sox hire Carlos Rodriguez for Assistant GM role

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7 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Definitely seems like the international side is his specialty. Wonder if he was drawn more by the AGM title or maybe the opportunity to expand his responsibilities/experience beyond that.

Probably both.  He gets the better job title but also gets to stick in his own niche and work on what he is proficient at.

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    Kind of confirms they are landing Murakami.  You don’t add an Assistant GM with lots of international scouting experience unless you’re planning a whopper of an addition in that area.

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12 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Definitely seems like the international side is his specialty. Wonder if he was drawn more by the AGM title or maybe the opportunity to expand his responsibilities/experience beyond that.

The German Marquez talk in a different thread had me wondering if Rodriguez had any involvement in his signing as an amateur. 

26 minutes ago, Lukakke Appling said:

The German Marquez talk in a different thread had me wondering if Rodriguez had any involvement in his signing as an amateur. 

Jul 11, 2021 · "So Rays scout Mario Gonzalez, father of Red Sox multi-positional player Marwin Gonzalez, signed Márquez for $200,000. Days later, the Rockies ..."

Nope. 

But had to have been aware, peripherally involved.

Edited by caulfield12

https://yanksgoyard.com/yankees-international-prospect-crisis-just-took-a-brutal-turn-if-rumors-are-true

Sounds like Yankees intl. scouting shop was a complete mess. 

Rodriguez chose the relative sanity/stability of the White Sox (until at least 2029.)

https://risingapple.com/ny-mets-humiliate-yankees-shoplift-top-international-prospect-wandy-asigen&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwip2KyQz8iRAxVrDzQIHXgjJBoQFnoECAcQAg&usg=AOvVaw34QRKdblOLfDFyUiSR727I

"At 16, it’s ridiculously premature to declare this a major victory for the Mets as easily as it is an embarrassment for the Yankees. Any other team losing the second ranked international prospect to the Mets wouldn’t be as much of a story. Going to the Mets, a day after Luke Weaver, to a team that has already stacked itself with ex-Yankees players and coaches, makes it a twist a uniquely Big Apple story at the moment "

 

Fwiw, Mets' last big intl. success was SS Jose Reyes ages ago...1999 signing.

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Since last offseason, how many trades have we made with the Rays? At least 4 right?

7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Since last offseason, how many trades have we made with the Rays? At least 4 right?

I think real question is what percentage of our 40 man roster is made up of former Rays.

12 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Since last offseason, how many trades have we made with the Rays? At least 4 right?


waivers

Brandon Eisert
Mike Vasil
Jesse Scholtens to Rays
Tristan Peters

trades

Jankowski sold to Rays
Thaiss for Dru Baker
Tristan Gray sold to
Houser for Mead/Davitt/Peoples
Gomez/Wilson for Pereira/Murray

30 minutes ago, WestEddy said:


waivers

Brandon Eisert
Mike Vasil
Jesse Scholtens to Rays
Tristan Peters

trades

Jankowski sold to Rays
Thaiss for Dru Baker
Tristan Gray sold to
Houser for Mead/Davitt/Peoples
Gomez/Wilson for Pereira/Murray

Rumors the Rays are trying to put together a significant package for Ketel Marte. 

6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Rumors the Rays are trying to put together a significant package for Ketel Marte. 

Did the White Sox somehow obtain Marte in a deal we haven't heard about, yet?

55 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Did the White Sox somehow obtain Marte in a deal we haven't heard about, yet?

That might clear out half the system.

Where would he play lol?

6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

That might clear out half the system.

Where would he play lol?

Why are you talking about Marte in response to a convo about what deals the Rays and White Sox made together?

The Marlins GM came from the Rays.  In 2 years they were close to .500 in a tough division while Getz is celebrating 2 100 loss seasons.  I like to nickname the Marlins as Reinsdorf South. 

Getz could play the blame game but last I heard he was a minor league director before being "promoted". 

1 hour ago, kitekrazy said:

The Marlins GM came from the Rays.  In 2 years they were close to .500 in a tough division while Getz is celebrating 2 100 loss seasons.  I like to nickname the Marlins as Reinsdorf South. 

Getz could play the blame game but last I heard he was a minor league director before being "promoted". 

Not only that.. but battling the Mets Braves Phillies in the same division.

Getz doesn't have that "financial heavyweights" card to play.

You wanna be the Rays? Then you'd trade Robert now. They are always moving talent while the talent interests the league. They dont care if the guy looks good on a bobblehead promotion. When assets are offered up, that guy is gone.

3 minutes ago, Fielder Jones said:

You wanna be the Rays? Then you'd trade Robert now. They are always moving talent while the talent interests the league. They dont care if the guy looks good on a bobblehead promotion. When assets are offered up, that guy is gone.

The Rays would have traded him years ago, like we should have.

well they just hired the Rays guy but - yes.

6 minutes ago, Fielder Jones said:

You wanna be the Rays? Then you'd trade Robert now. They are always moving talent while the talent interests the league. They dont care if the guy looks good on a bobblehead promotion. When assets are offered up, that guy is gone.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-white-sox/seeking-an-edge-white-sox-add-proven-rays-executive-carlos-rodriguez/

They would have traded him after 2023.

Definitely held on to Randy Arozarena too long.

 

Of course, actually trading a guy like Robert at peak is easier said than done.

It also represents surrender of sorts to the fanbase.

The Sox held on to Anderson, Cease and most of their players too long, in hindsight. Part of that was obviously injuries as well, see Moncada/Eloy/Hendriks/Kopech.

Trading Crochet was the one guy who worked out well, Giolito too, I guess.

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-white-sox/seeking-an-edge-white-sox-add-proven-rays-executive-carlos-rodriguez/

They would have traded him after 2023.

Definitely held on to Randy Arozarena too long.

 

Of course, actually trading a guy like Robert at peak is easier said than done.

It also represents surrender of sorts to the fanbase.

The Sox held on to Anderson, Cease and most of their players too long, in hindsight. Part of that was obviously injuries as well, see Moncada/Eloy/Hendriks/Kopech.

Trading Crochet was the one guy who worked out well, Giolito too, I guess.

No, actually, they would have traded him by the 2023 trade deadline. I mean, if we're going to play 20/20 hindsight, do the whole gameboard, not just the parts that pretend you were clairvoyant. 

15 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

No, actually, they would have traded him by the 2023 trade deadline. I mean, if we're going to play 20/20 hindsight, do the whole gameboard, not just the parts that pretend you were clairvoyant. 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/ranking-the-prospects-traded-during-the-2023-deadline/

Manzardo Gilbert Acuna and Quero were the Four biggest names traded.

Try again.

Everything is going to be a hypothetical.

Most posters believed there was no possible prospect that would have remotely captured his actual value at that moment in time...because the risk was so high it could all blow up later on down the line based on the ups and downs of 2020-2022.

7 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/ranking-the-prospects-traded-during-the-2023-deadline/

Manzardo Gilbert Acuna and Quero were the Four biggest names traded.

Try again.

Everything is going to be a hypothetical.

Most posters believed there was no possible prospect that would have remotely captured his actual value at that moment in time...because the risk was so high it could all blow up later on down the line based on the ups and downs of 2020-2022.

nevermind

 

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