Sox post TV crew looks a bit haggard.

11 minutes ago, pcq said:

Sox post TV crew looks a bit haggard.

Frank stopped sending free Nugenix after the lawsuit

35 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

The only one that reinforced your argument was the voice in your own head. I’m pretty sure no one called the Brewers scrubs, if they are the team you are referring to. People did say that the Brewers aren’t the best team in the NL, which isn’t a crazy stance considering the Dodgers still exist. They are also down two starting position players in Chourio and Vaughn. Even you later revised your statement about this.

Obviously every win counts, but there is a bit of a difference between beating a team like the Brewers and beating up on a bad #5 starter in Chris Paddack and the Marlins.

Not in the standings. A win is a win.

I was pissed at Vargas swinging at a dirt ball and then he makes me look bad with the salami.

5 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Because it’s a message board and people can post what they want. Paddack stinks. Other posters said the same thing. But if you went to cry about it, go ahead. I won’t tell you what to post, like you are trying to do to me.

You're a blitzkreig poster who loves throwing gasoline on a fire because it fans the flames of discontent. Everyone knows your act. Its popular among discontented fans wallowing in their own misery and you have the nerve to tell fair people who see some hope that theyre the ones crying about you. Sorry I wouldnt waste tears on you.

True grief is for real tragedies not a baseball team struggling to make some inroads while fighting against an owner playing it safe in the final years of his life.

We know what's going on and I see a lot of nobility in it by those involved fighting an uphill battle . It's such a shame you choose to kick a team while its down. You feel empowered by the fact the there's plenty here just like you and so few willing to fight back. It's typical bully psychology . The sad part is youre actually supposed to like the White Sox but you actually dont. You like them when they win . You only like them when they make you feel good about yourself aligning yourself with a winner. Typical fair weather fan always on the popular side of any argument.

Edited 12 hours ago12 hr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

9 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

You're a blitzkreig poster who loves throwing gasoline on a fire because it fans the flames of discontent. Everyone knows your act. Its popular among discontented fans wallowing in their own misery and you have the nerve to tell fair people who see some hope that theyre the ones crying about you. Sorry I wouldnt waste tears on you.

True grief is for real tragedies not a baseball team struggling to make some inroads while fighting against an owner playing it safe in the final years of his life.

We know what's going on and I see a lot of nobility in it by those involved fighting an uphill battle . It's such a shame you choose to kick a team while its down. You feel empowered by the fact the there's plenty here just like you and so few willing to fight back. It's typical bully psychology . The sad part is youre actually supposed to like the White Sox but you actually dont. You like them when they win . You only like them when they make you feel good about yourself aligning yourself with a winner. Typical fair weather fair always on the popular side of any argument.

Everyone knows your act as well. You think that you are some grand prognosticator and always make sure to give yourself a pat on the back whether your predictions were right or wrong. You also feel the need to argue with other posters who aren’t as optimistic every day as you are about this team. Usually the mods are your favorite target for whatever reason, but apparently I am your obsession now. I truly think you enjoy arguing with other posters on this site as much as you enjoy a Sox victory. You are the most insecure Sox fan and poster on this site. Trust me, I don’t need or want your tears. I have a successful career and family, including two teenage sons. My older son has had more success with his HS football team than the Sox have had in over 20 years. That made me feel truly good. The Sox being good would be a nice piece of enjoyment on the side but it doesn’t ultimately impact my life, nor does it truly impact yours.

This is a Sox message board. We are all here to talk about the team, whether they are performing like crap and losing or playing well and winning. It’s not as gravely serious as you are making it out to be.

Typical bully psychology? 🤣 Are you a therapist? You need to get a grip, and perhaps another hobby other than arguing with anyone who would dare talk negatively about a baseball team and labeling them a bully. Once again, 🤣

Also, no baseball fan that only wanted to align themselves with a winner would choose to be a White Sox fan. History would say you are absolutely delusional for doing so.

I recently took you off my Ignore List even after numerous other posters said that it would be a mistake. They were right. Fortunately, back to the Ignore List you go. Now you can go back to arguing with the mods to get your jollies off. Sorry in advance to the mods…

Edited 11 hours ago11 hr by WhiteSox2023

“It’s popular among discontented fans wallowing in their own misery and you have the nerve to tell fair people who see some hope that they’re the ones crying about you.”

Those who are for the Iran war would undoubtedly point their fingers at liberals and say the exact same thing.

“Liberals don’t love their country and should move to another country if you’re so unhappy is the general sentiment. Liberals should be more positive/optimistic. Liberals are ashamed of American exceptionalism, etc.”

Of course liberals for their part believe that the pro war crowd is quite delusional and would likely never advocate their own sons or daughters join the actual (non rhetorical) fighting in the Middle East.

Two entrenched sides who both believe they’re 100% in the right.

Which side is actually fair objective balanced?

Well, it depends largely on one’s perspective, right?

The greater point here isn’t about politics at all, but simply that there has to be two sides to have an argument or debate, but emotions/passions inevitably get in the way of reasonable discourse just as they do with serious real world topics.

The only commonality between politics and SoxTalk is a poster openly admitting they hate me and the poster you are engaged with here…partially for being “dark clouds.”

Except that same notion absolutely destroyed WSI, if you will kindly remember 10 or 15 years ago. That if you didn’t parrot the groupthink adulation for the front office and ownership group…well, there wasn’t a welcoming place for you there at their site. Now it’s reached the polar opposite side.

But isn’t it better to agree to disagree than to let things get to the point of outright hatred on a sports-related message board?

Aren’t there bigger problems in the world than how someone chooses to be a fan?

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by caulfield12

7 hours ago, WestEddy said:

Weird how you never brought this up when Caulfield was s%*#-talking Colson every step of the way.

I called him above average defensively last year.

you said near elite lol

If you’re talking about Colton’s 2024 through the first two months of 2026 … nobody predicted his final three months?

Receipts? Where are they?

Lost in the mail?

7 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

The Sox won their World Series today, we should all be celebrating.

Against one of the worst mlb starters who will soon be replaced…

4 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

You're a blitzkreig poster who loves throwing gasoline on a fire because it fans the flames of discontent. Everyone knows your act. Its popular among discontented fans wallowing in their own misery and you have the nerve to tell fair people who see some hope that theyre the ones crying about you. Sorry I wouldnt waste tears on you.

True grief is for real tragedies not a baseball team struggling to make some inroads while fighting against an owner playing it safe in the final years of his life.

We know what's going on and I see a lot of nobility in it by those involved fighting an uphill battle . It's such a shame you choose to kick a team while its down. You feel empowered by the fact the there's plenty here just like you and so few willing to fight back. It's typical bully psychology . The sad part is youre actually supposed to like the White Sox but you actually dont. You like them when they win . You only like them when they make you feel good about yourself aligning yourself with a winner. Typical fair weather fan always on the popular side of any argument.

I have no stance on this particular exchange between posters. I will say, generally, forums are not places where "positivity" occurs with the fan bases. It is usually a place to vent frustrations which are ultimately negative. If someone struggles with seeing that on a regular basis, then they will struggle reading an online forum of any kind. You either learn to redirect the conversation or manage your own house.

The people who are worried about being bullied need to learn how to not let words from an anonymous person not have weight in their existence. They are just words and they will only resonate if a person allows them to resonate. Bending behavior to contour to the disordered mind is not a recipe for success for a society. One must learn to govern his or her self.

I believe it is the fault of the quest for some kind of acceptance, relevance, or a combination there of. I've been posting on forums (including this one) since I was a teenager some 20 years ago. Back then, there was a desire to reach out to places I could go and experience community since I struggled with community elsewhere. I see it as human to want to do such. The problem occurs when you rely on it for self worth when it is a responsibility of the user to find that through their actions in life.

Joy will break if it is built on a weak foundation. Some material is better suited for it. Everyone should be cautious for what is holding up the base of their being.

I am curious to see what Everson Pereira can do if given playing time.

Nice win

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

I called him above average defensively last year.

you said near elite lol

If you’re talking about Colton’s 2024 through the first two months of 2026 … nobody predicted his final three months?

Receipts? Where are they?

Lost in the mail?

It's weird that people are now mad that Soxtalk recognized Colson is way better than advertised at SS.

46 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

It's weird that people are now mad that Soxtalk recognized Colson is way better than advertised at SS.

And yet not so elite that they're already moving him off the position for Carlson (who might never make it as a hitter) and someone not even in the org yet.

In 35 years around the sport, I have never once seen that transpire before.l

Amazing how WEddy was validated by one single Ray Ray post filled with a bunch of advanced stat acronyms.

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

“It’s popular among discontented fans wallowing in their own misery and you have the nerve to tell fair people who see some hope that they’re the ones crying about you.”

Those who are for the Iran war would undoubtedly point their fingers at liberals and say the exact same thing.

“Liberals don’t love their country and should move to another country if you’re so unhappy is the general sentiment. Liberals should be more positive/optimistic. Liberals are ashamed of American exceptionalism, etc.”

Of course liberals for their part believe that the pro war crowd is quite delusional and would likely never advocate their own sons or daughters join the actual (non rhetorical) fighting in the Middle East.

Two entrenched sides who both believe they’re 100% in the right.

Which side is actually fair objective balanced?

Well, it depends largely on one’s perspective, right?

The greater point here isn’t about politics at all, but simply that there has to be two sides to have an argument or debate, but emotions/passions inevitably get in the way of reasonable discourse just as they do with serious real world topics.

The only commonality between politics and SoxTalk is a poster openly admitting they hate me and the poster you are engaged with here…partially for being “dark clouds.”

Except that same notion absolutely destroyed WSI, if you will kindly remember 10 or 15 years ago. That if you didn’t parrot the groupthink adulation for the front office and ownership group…well, there wasn’t a welcoming place for you there at their site. Now it’s reached the polar opposite side.

But isn’t it better to agree to disagree than to let things get to the point of outright hatred on a sports-related message board?

Aren’t there bigger prob

2 hours ago, WookiesOnRitalin said:

I have no stance on this particular exchange between posters. I will say, generally, forums are not places where "positivity" occurs with the fan bases. It is usually a place to vent frustrations which are ultimately negative. If someone struggles with seeing that on a regular basis, then they will struggle reading an online forum of any kind. You either learn to redirect the conversation or manage your own house.

The people who are worried about being bullied need to learn how to not let words from an anonymous person not have weight in their existence. They are just words and they will only resonate if a person allows them to resonate. Bending behavior to contour to the disordered mind is not a recipe for success for a society. One must learn to govern his or her self.

I believe it is the fault of the quest for some kind of acceptance, relevance, or a combination there of. I've been posting on forums (including this one) since I was a teenager some 20 years ago. Back then, there was a desire to reach out to places I could go and experience community since I struggled with community elsewhere. I see it as human to want to do such. The problem occurs when you rely on it for self worth when it is a responsibility of the user to find that through their actions in life.

Joy will break if it is built on a weak foundation. Some material is better suited for it. Everyone should be cautious for what is holding up the base of their being.

My problem with bullying is that even though it's on a very small scale on a message board its indicative of group think on a much larger scale in society. The more you ignore it the bigger problem it becomes. People get caught up in the frenzy of being on the popular side knowing the security of their power position. I'm a fly buzzing around their head.

Those on the popular side equate it to being right and those who speak up are major annoyances and outcasts .

Im like the White Sox fighting that uphill battle. JR is the power that controls the purse strings but, as I said, I see nobility in their efforts towards moving forward.I don't see a need to trample on the hopes of fans who think the Sox could resign Murakami or any hopeful thought .

Basically both sides are on the same side aligned against the owner , a man preparing his team for a sale and being ultraconservative with the pursestrings, moreso than any other time in his ownership. Our differences are how we deal with it.

Not only that , but its doing a lot of damage to the franchise. It's dark times among fans and here I am reminding them that better times are not that far away. No one wants to hear it. It's always about the " here and now" . I understand what I'm up against, human nature, sports fandom in general, power structures . Ultimately that kind of thinking leads to mass atrocities committed against those who arent them.

My feelings aren't tied to how to JR runs the Sox. I just try to appreciate the little things and peoples efforts to be forward thinking in spite of the huge obstacle of the Big Boss. If that sounds like I'm cheering in support of participation trophies and the effort being more important than the outcome it's because that's just how the situation is right now. I do root for the underdogs. It'll change if the sale to the Ishbia's goes through. I'm powerless to change it so I take pleasure in the positives I see in the eye of the hurricane. But its still a hurricane, powerful and destructive, yet temporary.

I applaud those here who start game threads and do under appreciated stuff like el rockin, who unfortunately seems gone forever. Bama Doc who shows great dedication in keeping us informed in the minor league game threads. And many others who tirelessly show us game highlights from tweets or give us historical Sox info. You are the backbone of Soxtalk. Thank you Jason who has kept this place going from the beginning .

nice win

pitching staff is still a huge weakness

21 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

And yet not so elite that they're already moving him off the position for Carlson (who might never make it as a hitter) and someone not even in the org yet.

In 35 years around the sport, I have never once seen that transpire before.l

Amazing how WEddy was validated by one single Ray Ray post filled with a bunch of advanced stat acronyms.

I'm not sure how I was supposed to support the case that Colson Montgomery has been an elite defender since joining the big leagues beyond what I provided. I obviously think he looks the part and he has passed the eye test and the Metrics back it up. He was in the 92nd percentile in OAA last year despite having nearly 1/2 as many chances as those ahead of him. The Sox not committing to him there just further highlights their ineptitude in my opinion.

I also think Soxtalk is assuming that, but not even I think Chris Getz is dumb enough to move a guy off a position for a College kid so I think that's a Soxtalk fallacy. Either way, it's sad to see how unfamiliar some Sox fans are with winning baseball games that they gloat like the Sox won the World Series yesterday.

13 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I'm not sure how I was supposed to support the case that Colson Montgomery has been an elite defender since joining the big leagues beyond what I provided. I obviously think he looks the part and he has passed the eye test and the Metrics back it up. He was in the 92nd percentile in OAA last year despite having nearly 1/2 as many chances as those ahead of him. The Sox not committing to him there just further highlights their ineptitude in my opinion.

I also think Soxtalk is assuming that, but not even I think Chris Getz is dumb enough to move a guy off a position for a College kid so I think that's a Soxtalk fallacy. Either way, it's sad to see how unfamiliar some Sox fans are with winning baseball games that they gloat like the Sox won the World Series yesterday.

There's a whole crew who take a victory lap like they won the World Series with every loss, so I guess it balances out.

13 hours ago, hi8is said:

Why try being Super-Man on the 4th game of the season while your team is up by 6?

Are you talking about Pereira sticking his spikes in the wall ?

Most guys in his position, fighting for keeping their dreams alive , do not equate effort with the score or the schedule.

How hard you try is actually the key in many things.

6 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

“It’s popular among discontented fans wallowing in their own misery and you have the nerve to tell fair people who see some hope that they’re the ones crying about you.”

Those who are for the Iran war would undoubtedly point their fingers at liberals and say the exact same thing.

“Liberals don’t love their country and should move to another country if you’re so unhappy is the general sentiment. Liberals should be more positive/optimistic. Liberals are ashamed of American exceptionalism, etc.”

Of course liberals for their part believe that the pro war crowd is quite delusional and would likely never advocate their own sons or daughters join the actual (non rhetorical) fighting in the Middle East.

Two entrenched sides who both believe they’re 100% in the right.

Which side is actually fair objective balanced?

Well, it depends largely on one’s perspective, right?

The greater point here isn’t about politics at all, but simply that there has to be two sides to have an argument or debate, but emotions/passions inevitably get in the way of reasonable discourse just as they do with serious real world topics.

The only commonality between politics and SoxTalk is a poster openly admitting they hate me and the poster you are engaged with here…partially for being “dark clouds.”

Except that same notion absolutely destroyed WSI, if you will kindly remember 10 or 15 years ago. That if you didn’t parrot the groupthink adulation for the front office and ownership group…well, there wasn’t a welcoming place for you there at their site. Now it’s reached the polar opposite side.

But isn’t it better to agree to disagree than to let things get to the point of outright hatred on a sports-related message board?

Aren’t there bigger problems in the world than how someone chooses to be a fan?

Yawn really

7 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

There's a whole crew who take a victory lap like they won the World Series with every loss, so I guess it balances out.

Then the White Sox have the equivalent of three WS victories over the 2023-25 period.

Who knew?

Probably has something to do with how many late inning/blown save losses have piled up over that time.

We'very had periods where fans wished for losses to get rid of managers (Venture TLR and Grifol), GM's and even rooting for 121 losses.

But none of those things mattered at all in the owner's box.

Maybe it just made him more intransigent, ultimately.

In his podcast appearance this week, Cuban cited the "emotional commitment" of being a majority owner for driving his decision to sell the team.

"You hear the passion and everything," Cuban said. "Now imagine going up and down like that every single game. That's hard.

"My kids, they were coming of age where they would have the mindset that they want to work at the Mavs. I didn't want them to. If fans don't like what you're doing or the team's not doing well, you're the worst human being on the planet." espn.com

JR's biggest concern?

Avoiding capital gains taxes....certainly not protecting the feelings of Jerry Krause's widow or Frank Thomas, Carlton Fisk or Dick Allen's family.

[quote]My problem with bullying is that even though it's on a very small scale on a message board its indicative of group think on a much larger scale in society. The more you ignore it the bigger problem it becomes. People get caught up in the frenzy of being on the popular side knowing the security of their power position. I'm a fly buzzing around their head.

Those on the popular side equate it to being right and those who speak up are major annoyances and outcasts .[/quote]

Not necessarily and I believe you are making a lot of assumptions with such a claim. The problem is perception. What someone perceives as bullying may not be so. Even if it was, the underlying value proposition is who gives a rats ass? That's their problem and not yours. Sticks and stones.

Group think is not necessarily a bad thing either. You have to be more specific and we should take those subjects on a case by case basis. A perspective I always try to maintain is what is the "median" of any particular topic. Is there a mid point that encapsulates a higher hit rate than others. The problem you get with internet culture is that the median perspective is not utilized for maximal engagement. In fact, internet culture rewards the opposite.