May 27May 27 https://www.mlb.com/prospects/stats/affiliates?teamId=145&date=05/27/2026https://www.mlb.com/milb/scores/all/all/whitesox?affiliateId=mlbcom-milbHagen Smith today.
May 27May 27 12 minutes ago, oldsox said:The wind must have been blowing out in Birmingham.At least for the Wahoos, good lord
May 27May 27 24 minutes ago, Jake said:Hagen stinker in progressWe need some pitching in this system badlyHe has no walks through 2 with 5 ks so that is at least progress Edited May 27May 27 by BigHurt3515
May 27May 27 Subsequent innings definitely looking better...jumbo shrimp are chasing a lot. He's only thrown 33% of his pitches in the zone which is crazy low. Tells you something about the quality of the stuff but I hope he can zone it up if they make him do it
May 27May 27 I'm noticing that there's a lot of variance in the fastball shape. I don't know if he's trying to throw more than one kind or what. But he's thrown some four seamers with as much as 13" horizontal break and as few as 2". The actual numbers are less important than the difference. How are you supposed to locate if your fastball's movement is that unpredictable? I notice that the armside run is reducing as the game goes on, which I don't have much interpretation of. Just another one of those things that makes me feel like this is a very unfinished product.
May 27May 27 Smith has pitched 4 innings with 1bb and 7K. Gave up a two run HR. Not horrible certainly.
May 27May 27 Raining in Charlotte so Hagen likely done. 5ip 4h 2r 2er 1bb 7K so a positive start if not dominate.
May 28May 28 6 minutes ago, Timmy U said:Raining in Charlotte so Hagen likely done. 5ip 4h 2r 2er 1bb 7K so a positive start if not dominate.It was a team with a lot of MLB quality righties, so I say it was a positive start
May 28May 28 Besides the homer, which was very much killed, they didn't make any good contact against him. Seems like he started filling the zone a bit more as the game went on and they weren't quite as chase oriented. Had his usual loss of 1.5mph on the fastball from the first to his final inning (down to 93.4 average). This is a guy who averaged almost 97mph in his first start of the season. Seems like the drop and drive delivery will make everything play up though.
May 28May 28 38 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:Only 1 walk for Hagen is a good sign.Velo?Nvm. He was 95-97/98 his first year, right?Not sure mid 90s gets it done without complete control of slider or having at least a major league average third pitch.Still looks like a reliever, albeit with shaky control.But at least there’s Sandlin and Shane progressing. Edited May 28May 28 by caulfield12
May 28May 28 Hagen velo ranged 92-96 it looked like. Mostly parked at 94. Not awful, but disappointing. Edited May 28May 28 by Lukakke Appling
May 28May 28 32 minutes ago, Lukakke Appling said:Hagen velo ranged 92-96 it looked like. Mostly parked at 94. Not awful, but disappointing.has it been like that all year or maybe he is trying to gain a little more control?
May 28May 28 1 minute ago, BigHurt3515 said:has it been like that all year or maybe he is trying to gain a little more control?I seem to remember him throwing harder earlier in the season, but losing velo as the game progressed. He’s been more consistent in the same 92-96 range his last few starts. I’m guessing you’re right and he’s dialed it back. Edited May 28May 28 by Lukakke Appling
May 28May 28 31 minutes ago, Lukakke Appling said:Hagen velo ranged 92-96 it looked like. Mostly parked at 94. Not awful, but disappointing.Don't think anyone had Davis Martin as higher velo and more hit and miss stuff than Schultz and Hagen in 26.Hopefully, Shane Smith and fingers crossed McDougal can get things together in the second half.(Still not counting on Adams or Thorpe.)
May 28May 28 3 hours ago, Timmy U said:Raining in Charlotte so Hagen likely done. 5ip 4h 2r 2er 1bb 7K so a positive start if not dominate.Thats improvement from recent starts for sure. Esp 1 BB
May 28May 28 16 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:Thats improvement from recent starts for sure. Esp 1 BBCall him up!
May 28May 28 4 hours ago, Jake said:I'm noticing that there's a lot of variance in the fastball shape. I don't know if he's trying to throw more than one kind or what. But he's thrown some four seamers with as much as 13" horizontal break and as few as 2". The actual numbers are less important than the difference. How are you supposed to locate if your fastball's movement is that unpredictable? I notice that the armside run is reducing as the game goes on, which I don't have much interpretation of. Just another one of those things that makes me feel like this is a very unfinished product.Variance is a good thing if it's intentional and he's controlling it. I guess that's not the situation. That could get his 94 to play a lot faster.Otherwise, at 94, he'll be 4th starter a best; maybe a 3 with impeccable command. I supposed 4th starter would be a reasonable "mitigation of damages" at this point. Edited May 28May 28 by GreenSox
May 28May 28 19 minutes ago, GreenSox said:Variance is a good thing if it's intentional and he's controlling it. I guess that's not the situation. That could get his 94 to play a lot faster.Otherwise, at 94, he'll be 4th starter a best; maybe a 3 with impeccable command. I supposed 4th starter would be a reasonable "mitigation of damages" at this point.So we went from Konnor Griffin to a 4th starter.Lulz
May 28May 28 6 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:So we went from Konnor Griffin to a 4th starter.LulzI try to comfort myself by thinking that we might have picked Jac.Or, if we had picked Griffin, we may not have picked Bonemer.Or if he was as good as Chase Burns, as some thought (presumably the Sox), we'd have an ace. Edited May 28May 28 by GreenSox
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