2 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Whoa Nelly.

My prediction is he’s going to the Diamondbacks.

Tampa

1 hour ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

The checkbook is open, why the hell would he choose to spend farm assets instead?

Because we are getting another starter by taking on salary in addition to getting another starter with more prospect capital.

If we go the Peralta route I’d venture to guess that’s our prospect capital buy in the SP market.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Tampa

Is this confirmed - he's going to Tampa or you are just speculating.

49 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Fully disagree on Wolkow. Teams have shifted towards prioritizing youth and ceiling in these types of deals. You say he’s been spinning in circles for a long time, yet he is a 20 year old in High A who has made some strides this year in terms of the K rate. He’s certainly a high variance player who likely amounts to nothing, but the ceiling if it were to click is insane. To think he has zero trade value is just simply wrong IMO.

If is doing some heavy lifting here. Realistically, he's got a better chance of being out of baseball in 3 years than he does being a major league contributor. There's nothing wrong with a guy like this, but he has a LOT of work to do, that he probably won't be able to do.

2 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

Is this confirmed - he's going to Tampa or you are just speculating.

Speculating

15 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

qualifying offer to either retain him or get back a pick

I thought teams acquiring players in trade that are lost to FA no longer get compensation

Just now, fathom said:

Speculating

Yeah, he’s headed to Tampa to meet up with his new team, the White Sox!!!

Pass. Really dont want to trade legit prospects for a rental especially one who has struggled this year

21 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

Maybe building on this, but if he came over and pitched like he has the past few years down the stretch for the Sox, you could go down the route of a qualifying offer to either retain him or get back a pick (so regain some of that capital). Obviously plenty of scenarios where he isn't worth that qualifying offer - but if was becoming a free agent a year ago, I think he would have gotten that offer.

Guys that are traded aren’t eligible for QO’s.

8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

If is doing some heavy lifting here. Realistically, he's got a better chance of being out of baseball in 3 years than he does being a major league contributor. There's nothing wrong with a guy like this, but he has a LOT of work to do, that he probably won't be able to do.

No doubt…but the same can be said for a toolsy LatAm teenager and those guys still have value. My point isn’t that Wolkow is super valuable, just that he doesn’t have zero value.

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

No doubt…but the same can be said for a toolsy LatAm teenager and those guys still have value. My point isn’t that Wolkow is super valuable, just that he doesn’t have zero value.

Sure, which puts him firmly into a deal like this. It's like when the Sox draft the guy throwing 100 in college, but can't find the strike zone to save his life. Sure IF he puts it together he could be something, and he will get looks because of his loud tool, but the runway for him is much longer than others to get there.

10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Sure, which puts him firmly into a deal like this. It's like when the Sox draft the guy throwing 100 in college, but can't find the strike zone to save his life. Sure IF he puts it together he could be something, and he will get looks because of his loud tool, but the runway for him is much longer than others to get there.

And I am willing to put him in this deal.

53 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

Maybe building on this, but if he came over and pitched like he has the past few years down the stretch for the Sox, you could go down the route of a qualifying offer to either retain him or get back a pick (so regain some of that capital). Obviously plenty of scenarios where he isn't worth that qualifying offer - but if was becoming a free agent a year ago, I think he would have gotten that offer.

I don't think you can do qualifying offers to midseason acquisitions anymore.

3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

This isn't that big of a price. It's two guys outside of the org's top 10 in a middle tier system.

If that's your impression of Boston Smith hitting 1.200 OPS, you should watch more baseball. Pipeline ranks Mathias LaCombe as a better prospect than Smith but he obviously isn't. Maybe we can trick the Mets into taking LaCombe and Lodise instead because the number next to their names is lower.

Or pick up Marco Gonzales for nothing. That's what I would do. A rental with a 5 ERA is closer to a salary dump if you ask me.

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6 minutes ago, nrockway said:

If that's your impression of Boston Smith hitting 1.200 OPS, you should watch more baseball. Pipeline ranks Mathias LaCombe as a better prospect than Smith but he obviously isn't. Maybe we can trick the Mets into taking LaCombe and Lodise instead because the number next to their names is lower.

Or pick up Marco Gonzales for nothing. That's what I would do. A rental with a 5 ERA is closer to a salary dump if you ask me.

I mean I get the prospect hugging that happens during a deadline, but can we not act like he is the next coming of a sure thing? Even if his bat is for real, we have no idea if he can be a catcher or not.