15 hours ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said:

Whoever gets Peralta, he’ll return to form. Playing for the Mets is a curse.

Without a doubt. Met's are a soul sucking org. Wouldn't wish playing for them on a dog.

20 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

If is doing some heavy lifting here. Realistically, he's got a better chance of being out of baseball in 3 years than he does being a major league contributor. There's nothing wrong with a guy like this, but he has a LOT of work to do, that he probably won't be able to do.

There's plenty of player's in this years draft to replace his value. I'm not concerned one bit about trading him. I'm probably overrating Boston Smith. Something about him I don't want sell low.

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2 minutes ago, white sox 80 said:

There's plenty of player's in this years draft to replace bis value. I'm not concerned one bit about trading him. I'm probably overrating Boston Smith. Something about him I don't want sell low.

Look, if the Sox are already looking to put him into a deal like this, it probably means they see something limiting his ceiling at the major league level. If they saw him as a top end catcher, this deal doesn't get traction. Could they be wrong, sure.

19 hours ago, Whisox05 said:

I'm fine with filling the bullpen with in house pitching. McDougall ,Hagan Smith etc .

11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Look, if the Sox are already looking to put him into a deal like this, it probably means they see something limiting his ceiling at the major league level. If they saw him as a top end catcher, this deal doesn't get traction. Could they be wrong, sure.

B. Smith only concentrated on catching in his last year of college, where he caught 44 games (if memory serves). I think he's got a couple years of starting in the minors before he's regarded as an accomplished catcher.

11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Look, if the Sox are already looking to put him into a deal like this, it probably means they see something limiting his ceiling at the major league level. If they saw him as a top end catcher, this deal doesn't get traction. Could they be wrong, sure.

That's if this is true. Also they're not always right. All that said. If it happens I won't lose any sleep over the trade. All the best prospects would still be intact.

53 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

B. Smith only concentrated on catching in his last year of college, where he caught 44 games (if memory serves). I think he's got a couple years of starting in the minors before he's regarded as an accomplished catcher.

I may have already written this in this thread, but he didn't even call pitchers in that one year of primary catching in college. So he's having to learn that on the fly. When he was talking about pitch calling/sequencing in an interview I heard, he really gave the impression that he knew next to nothing about it. Almost gives an insight into his hitting that he's up there with an empty head just hacking at whatever looks right (might be more gift than curse, TBH)

45 minutes ago, Jake said:

I may have already written this in this thread, but he didn't even call pitchers in that one year of primary catching in college. So he's having to learn that on the fly. When he was talking about pitch calling/sequencing in an interview I heard, he really gave the impression that he knew next to nothing about it. Almost gives an insight into his hitting that he's up there with an empty head just hacking at whatever looks right (might be more gift than curse, TBH)

I don’t know about his pitch selection as a catcher but at the plate, Smith is an incredibly smart hitter with a good plan up there. A 200 WRC+ doesn’t happen by accident.

1 hour ago, Jake said:

I may have already written this in this thread, but he didn't even call pitchers in that one year of primary catching in college. So he's having to learn that on the fly. When he was talking about pitch calling/sequencing in an interview I heard, he really gave the impression that he knew next to nothing about it. Almost gives an insight into his hitting that he's up there with an empty head just hacking at whatever looks right (might be more gift than curse, TBH)

Modesty.

1 hour ago, Timmy U said:

I don’t know about his pitch selection as a catcher but at the plate, Smith is an incredibly smart hitter with a good plan up there. A 200 WRC+ doesn’t happen by accident.

I don't like to argue with results, I'm just saying to the extent he is smart, I think he appears to be smart by having a very simple plan and relentlessly executing it. Some of the stuff he was saying was basically expressing that he had just come to realize that pitchers are throwing balls out of the zone on purpose to try to get him to swing and therefore he decided to combat that by not swinging at them so much. And then it occurred to him that he should apply that lesson as a catcher.

I think he is showing a really impressive talent for recognizing pitch location...I've tried sort of stress-testing the data to see if there's an inner Lenyn Sosa waiting to come out with two strikes or something, but no. He pretty much makes great swing decisions. But I have a feeling it's because he isn't clouding his mind with a bunch of "this pitcher throws slider low and away 60% of the time on 1-2 counts" kind of stuff.

2 minutes ago, Jake said:

he isn't clouding his mind with a bunch of "this pitcher throws slider low and away 60% of the time on 1-2 counts" kind of stuff.

I sure hope none of our hitters at any level are thinking that way

5 minutes ago, hi8is said:

I sure hope none of our hitters at any level are thinking that way

I'm sure some of them do and for a subset of them, it basically works. I've heard numerous comments to the effect of most major leaguers are guess hitters. If you're gonna guess, you better know the scouting report inside out and backwards. I think the truth is probably a little more complicated, e.g. sometimes guessing, sometimes not, plus the guess isn't 100% selling out for one exact pitch in one exact spot.

2 hours ago, Jake said:

I'm sure some of them do and for a subset of them, it basically works. I've heard numerous comments to the effect of most major leaguers are guess hitters. If you're gonna guess, you better know the scouting report inside out and backwards. I think the truth is probably a little more complicated, e.g. sometimes guessing, sometimes not, plus the guess isn't 100% selling out for one exact pitch in one exact spot.

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