Doyle did have a 779 ops the second half of 2025, but then everything really fell apart this season…

1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said:

f*** off

Or is it "fvck off"?

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Doyle did have a 779 ops the second half of 2025, but then everything really fell apart this season…

From what I could find he was playing through some injuries this year at times and we are supposedly getting back at 100% health.

I really think Fuller will make some adjustments to help him start driving the ball in the air again soon.

I’m now at the Forest Gump moment of this thread… “That’s about all I’ve got to say about that.”

On 8/4/2026 at 10:44 AM, southsider2k5 said:

I would assume that is his point.

He already admitted (before your post) that it was lazy stat work by him not some profound statement on cherry picking. Oops. Do you really have to stick up for the most negative Sox opinions because you've been that way for the last few years and have trouble seeing that the Sox might be a contender before your 2030 statement at one point ? You're already dead on that hill but maybe the Sox will collapse in the 2nd half and have a bad 2027 and 2028 and you'll be happy and right .

24 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

He already admitted (before your post) that it was lazy stat work by him not some profound statement on cherry picking. Oops. Do you really have to stick up for the most negative Sox opinions because you've been that way for the last few years and have trouble seeing that the Sox might be a contender before your 2030 statement at one point ? You're already dead on that hill but maybe the Sox will collapse in the 2nd half and have a bad 2027 and 2028 and you'll be happy and right .

Your need for my approval is astounding.

Thinking some about that Early/Mead trade. Early was the 10th rated prospect in Boston's system last season prior to his debut and has pitched quite well in the MLB so far (regression to be expected). Adams was 12th in our system, is three years older and has a 2 point higher ERA at AAA. Pretty easy to say that Early has more trade value than Adams but are in a similar tier.

How much better of a player is Mead than Doyle? Mead has obviously had a very nice season at the plate but went into the season with career negative WAR and doesn't have a true position. He is one of the worst infield defenders in MLB. Doyle has ~5ish WAR, plays GG caliber defense at a much more important position but has been dreadful at the plate this season and the first half of last.

Have to think Mead is probably a bit more valuable at this moment in time, but these seem like fairly similar trades to me, former top prospects who have struggled to take hold in MLB traded for controllable, mid-rotation type guys. Difference is Mead and Connelly have done something in MLB this season compared to the other two. Boston also trades from a position of pitching depth relative to our Sox who could use some rotation help, but it's hard to see Mead in Boston's longterm plans except as a Yoshida DH replacement.

Doyle doesn't have to do a whole lot to be the Sox starting CF for years to come. If he hits ~.700ish OPS and normalizes his splits vR, you probably have an every day GG center fielder producing 4ish WAR. That isn't a huge ask. Adams would have to turn out to be a better pitcher than Martin to match that production. What are the odds of either of these things happening? I bet they're reasonably close in probability.