3 hours ago3 hr Did Will Venable purposely make a 2nd mound visit?It gave Sandlin time to warm up and saved Noah the embarrassment of the short leash.Thoughts?
3 hours ago3 hr No. Venable admitted to messing up right after the game. He pulled a boner, and not the right one.https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/venable-takes-blame-inexcusable-mistake-041400169.html
3 hours ago3 hr Don’t think so. Venable was probably on a lack of sleep and just goofed. No excuse at all for such a miscue though. If you can’t remember something that happened minutes before you should probably have had your bench coach on high alert and helping protect you from yourself.
3 hours ago3 hr Author 3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:No. Venable admitted to messing up right after the game. He pulled a boner, and not the right one.https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/venable-takes-blame-inexcusable-mistake-041400169.htmlYeah he could be taking the heat. He wouldn't admit that he purposely did this. The whole point of this theory was to avoid the embarrassment of short leash for Schultz.
3 hours ago3 hr 1 minute ago, Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her said:Yeah he could be taking the heat. He wouldn't admit that he purposely did this. The whole point of this theory was to avoid the embarrassment of short leash for Schultz.Eh, I think he just didn’t know the rules.
2 hours ago2 hr 25 minutes ago, Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her said:Yeah he could be taking the heat. He wouldn't admit that he purposely did this. The whole point of this theory was to avoid the embarrassment of short leash for Schultz.I'm with you on this one, Bon. Seems like Will is far too sharp to have done something like this accidentally.(Disclaimer: I have zero qualifications to render this opinion. I'm just a guy sitting at his laptop, in the kitchenette of his efficiency apartment, having a cup of Casey's "Darn Good" coffee, and thankful for this brand new day.)
2 hours ago2 hr 7 minutes ago, Bill The Boy said:I'm with you on this one, Bon. Seems like Will is far too sharp to have done something like this accidentally.(Disclaimer: I have zero qualifications to render this opinion. I'm just a guy sitting at his laptop, in the kitchenette of his efficiency apartment, having a cup of Casey's "Darn Good" coffee, and thankful for this brand new day.)LOL on the disclaimer, funny stuff !
2 hours ago2 hr What appeal was he trying to execute? He said he walked out there to execute an appeal and forgot they had already used one mound visit.
1 hour ago1 hr Not only would it have been incredibly odd for him to come out to talk to Noah that early, but that Bove just let him walk out there is kind of telling, too. That important game was about to get away from us in the top of the 1st…if ever there was a perfect time to “accidentally” force your flailing starter out of the game with no one warm in the pen, that was it.ETA…if he forgot Bove had already gone out there, why didn’t he send Bove out again? Have we ever seen Will make the first mound visit of a ballgame, much less in the first? Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by mmmmmbeeer
1 hour ago1 hr Guy screws up like a dope. Admits he fucked up on live TV. Soxtalk refuses to accept the reality.
1 hour ago1 hr 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:Guy screws up like a dope. Admits he fucked up on live TV. Soxtalk refuses to accept the reality.The “f*** up” makes zero sense for several reasons. He would never admit he gamed the system, but it was well played.
1 hour ago1 hr Author 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:Guy screws up like a dope. Admits he fucked up on live TV. Soxtalk refuses to accept the reality.Soxtalk presents completely plausible scenario where manager takes heat for players and finds a clever way to buy time for his pitcher to warm up. Know-it-all shits on it and takes the pessimistic view every time.
1 hour ago1 hr 30 minutes ago, fathom said:I think he did it on purpose but could never admit itZero chance.1 minute ago, mmmmmbeeer said:The “f*** up” makes zero sense for several reasons.He would never admit he gamed the system, but it was well played.He looked like a confused moron, not like some savant gaming the system. Occams razor is something people have a hard time accepting.
1 hour ago1 hr 7 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:Guy screws up like a dope. Admits he fucked up on live TV. Soxtalk refuses to accept the reality.What appeal was he trying to execute?
1 hour ago1 hr Just now, Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her said:Soxtalk presents completely plausible scenario where manager takes heat for players and finds a clever way to buy time for his pitcher to warm up. Know-it-all shits on it and takes the pessimistic view every time.Took heat? The Sox just sent Schultz down today. They've destroyed the kid. Pessimistic take lol. Its what happened and what was said by the man himself. That somehow makes me a pessismist. Im sorry you cant come to grips with that. This place has become intolerable.
1 hour ago1 hr Author 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: This place has become intolerable.Nobody begging you to keep tolerating!
1 hour ago1 hr 3 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:What appeal was he trying to execute?I dont even know what "execute an appeal" means in baseball context, as in requiring the manager to come out of the dugout. Thats not how you appeal. The guy screwed up and gave a bs explanation. Happens everyday in life. This place has jumped the shark it seems and my contributions dont really have a place here anymore. No biggie.
1 hour ago1 hr 10 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:Occams razor is something people have a hard time accepting.Like you. The obvious explanation, and why I called it immediately in the game thread, is that it was done on purpose. My only question is if he’s the first to do it or did he just expose a loophole for other managers?
59 minutes ago59 min I think he fucked up, personally. I also think he’s done a great job overall, so I’m less annoyed by it than some other that don’t like him as much.
57 minutes ago57 min Author 3 minutes ago, mmmmmbeeer said:Like you.The obvious explanation, and why I called it immediately in the game thread, is that it was done on purpose. My only question is if he’s the first to do it or did he just expose a loophole for other managers?Yes. Venable wouldnt go to the media and say "hahaha. I gamed the system. Loophole, bitches!!"He'd obviously play dumb publicly.
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