Not long after we acquired Doyle, I commented somewhere on here about how fidgety he was at the plate. I think I phrased it as him looking like an amateur golfer who watched way too many YouTube swing videos. He had a dramatic toe tap, moving his body a ton pre-pitch like some sort of routine he felt was necessary. He looked awful.

Now? Hes SO MUCH QUIETER in his stance. More upright, very slight toe tap, is not draining concentration from the pitcher by concentrating on some dumb movement. He looks like a completely different hitter.

For as much s%*# as Getz fairly gets for the Castillo debacle, I think this Doyle move is going to prove to be a real winner, not only through this post season but also by adding another 20-30 dongs to our lineup next season. Huge props to the hitting staff for apparently fixing this kid.

Pretty sure you and I were the only Doyle advocates when we got him. I think he’s going to be one of the most valuable players on our team next year and will be starting in centerfield with Peters getting time in left.

1 hour ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

Not long after we acquired Doyle, I commented somewhere on here about how fidgety he was at the plate. I think I phrased it as him looking like an amateur golfer who watched way too many YouTube swing videos. He had a dramatic toe tap, moving his body a ton pre-pitch like some sort of routine he felt was necessary. He looked awful.

Now? Hes SO MUCH QUIETER in his stance. More upright, very slight toe tap, is not draining concentration from the pitcher by concentrating on some dumb movement. He looks like a completely different hitter.

For as much s%*# as Getz fairly gets for the Castillo debacle, I think this Doyle move is going to prove to be a real winner, not only through this post season but also by adding another 20-30 dongs to our lineup next season. Huge props to the hitting staff for apparently fixing this kid.

He can be a 5 tool player. Excellent pick up. We need right handed pop.

1 hour ago, hi8is said:

Pretty sure you and I were the only Doyle advocates when we got him. I think he’s going to be one of the most valuable players on our team next year and will be starting in centerfield with Peters getting time in left.

Peters arm makes him a better corner outfielder.

Edited yesterday at 10:01 PM1 day by Colome's Hat

Also think Vargas could potentially be a corner outfielder. Don't think for a second that it's the equivalent of moving Vaughn to the outfield. He's the best athlete on the team by far.

If the coaches can fix Doyle, what does that say about some other players who clearly have needed fixing for a while.

40 minutes ago, Green Line said:

If the coaches can fix Doyle, what does that say about some other players who clearly have needed fixing for a while.

That it’s predominantly mental, but I was assured it was a 1.37° change in Mune’s bat angle while in his batting stance and definitely not mental.

1 hour ago, Colome's Hat said:

Also think Vargas could potentially be a corner outfielder. Don't think for a second that it's the equivalent of moving Vaughn to the outfield. He's the best athlete on the team by far.

Doyle has the better arm and sprint speed is very very close.

Vargas better power for his size, but not by a whole lot unless you're saying Vargas has even more potential to reach for physically next year.

1 hour ago, Green Line said:

If the coaches can fix Doyle, what does that say about some other players who clearly have needed fixing for a while.

That some are more resistant to change than others.

That baseball scouts and pitchers/catchers also possess an equivalent ability to bounce back with adjustments.

Doyle has been getting playing time, especially against LHP, and has pretty good numbers to show for it.

He is hot at the right time.

He could never hit in the best hitter's park in MLB, and you guys think it's because of some unusual movement in the batters box?

he still has struggled against RHP, right?

2 hours ago, oldsox said:

He could never hit in the best hitter's park in MLB, and you guys think it's because of some unusual movement in the batters box?

He was great in 2024. If you get him any close to these numbers you have a heck of a player.

2024 Season Statistics

• Games Played: 149

• Batting Average (AVG): .260

• On-Base Percentage (OBP): .317

• Slugging Percentage (SLG): .446

• Home Runs (HR): 23

• Runs Batted In (RBI): 72

• Stolen Bases (SB): 30

Golf glove defense

1 minute ago, HoosierSox said:

He was great in 2024. If you get him any close to these numbers you have a heck of a player.

2024 Season Statistics

• Games Played: 149

• Batting Average (AVG): .260

• On-Base Percentage (OBP): .317

• Slugging Percentage (SLG): .446

• Home Runs (HR): 23

• Runs Batted In (RBI): 72

• Stolen Bases (SB): 30

Golf glove defense

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One of the stories we've heard is that Doyle's offense was adversely impacted by outfield wall collisions caused by his aggressive style of play...think Aaron Rowand.

Could it also be he's finally feeling 100% healthy/rested???

Brenton Doyle’s 2026 falloff was significantly exacerbated by a combination of swing changes, a severe left oblique contusion, and a nagging left groin strain. After winning back-to-back National League Gold Gloves in 2023 and 2024 and hitting 23 home runs in 2024, Doyle struggled heavily at the plate before being sidelined by injuries in mid-May. [1, 2, 3]

📉 The Timeline of His Falloff and Injuries

• Early 2026 Slump: Before his major injury, Doyle slumped offensively, slashing just .207/.279/.270 with one home run across 43 games. He admitted that over-tinkering with his swing during Spring Training placed him on a "hamster wheel of changes" that disrupted his rhythm. [1, 2]

• The Oblique Contusion: On May 19, 2026, while making a characteristic fearless dive for a fly ball, Doyle suffered a severe left oblique contusion. The injury placed him on the 10-day injured list and proved to be incredibly restrictive, limiting his core movement and delaying baseball activities for weeks.

• Jul 1, 2026, 12:59 AM ET

  Colorado Rockies outfielderBrenton Doyle(groin, oblique) was scheduled to play a full minor-league rehab game in center field for Triple-A Albuquerque on Tuesday, but he was scratched from the lineup before first pitch due to groin tightness, according to MLB.com. Doyle has been on the 10-day injured list since May 21 with a left-oblique contusion.

Also injured in Spring Training...which undoubtedly was the start of the swing changes/tinkering.

"diagnosed with a sprained left wrist, keeping the two-time Gold Glove winner out of spring training action for the past three games"

overall, sounds very similar to Kyle Teel's season...just one setback after another

wrist oblique angle groin injuries van individually be death to a hitter, let alone all three on top of each other

no walks obviously hurts his obp

8% below average mlb offensive line but still a valuable player with that defensive and base running baseline

w/ White Sox

.258

.258

.438

.697

92 ops+

Edited 20 hours ago20 hr by caulfield12

3 hours ago, oldsox said:

He could never hit in the best hitter's park in MLB

You’re flat out wrong.

48 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Whoa - was that Grich in left??? Didn’t know they had played together before! That’s AWESOME

45 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

w/ White Sox

.258

.258

.438

.697

92 ops+

Tells me his best days are still ahead of him. It’s the only Getz deadline move I was stoked on. Still have my fingers crossed from Brazoban. Castillo is fucking cooked unfortunately and Bart will probably be trad bait or a backup next year.

Not a single walk in 93 ABs. Williams/Hahn era profile player. His peak year was .764 OPS in the best hitters park in baseball.
One of those is okay if he produces. And we do need his defense.

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by GreenSox

I'll sadly note that Doyle's xwOBA is actually lower with the Sox than with the Rox this season. Expected stats pick up the improvement in the past little while, but the expected stats seem to think he didn't improve that much and just got some lucky outcomes. He's had a couple infield singles and seeing eye ground ball singles that are probably propping him up a bit — plus I bet a couple of those homers could have just as easily been doubles. He needs to keep working.

His K rate spiked this year and I'm not totally sure why. His chase rate went up a bit but not by a ton. Makes contact in the zone reasonably well. Might just be getting really free-swinging with two strikes.

Doyle has a .235 xwOBA since joining the Sox, yet here we are talking about how the White Sox have transformed Doyle and he's now a win of the trade deadline. He has that despite the majority of his at bats coming against lefties with the Sox, who he's historically hit much better than righties, but with the Sox he has a .278 xwOBA against lefties which is absolutely terrible.

Yes, let's celebrate Getz for acquiring a DFA candidate with his 0 walks and 33% K-Rate in nearly 100 AB's with the Sox.

There wasn't a single good move at the deadline and it's why we're now playing a wildcard series.

4 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Doyle has a .235 xwOBA since joining the Sox, yet here we are talking about how the White Sox have transformed Doyle and he's now a win of the trade deadline. He has that despite the majority of his at bats coming against lefties with the Sox, who he's historically hit much better than righties, but with the Sox he has a .278 xwOBA against lefties which is absolutely terrible.

Yes, let's celebrate Getz for acquiring a DFA candidate with his 0 walks and 33% K-Rate in nearly 100 AB's with the Sox.

There wasn't a single good move at the deadline and it's why we're now playing a wildcard series.

At least we avoided Mason Adams pitching a meaningful G162 against the Sox by one start and an early clinching.

So there's that.

And there's no doubt he has been better recently...regardless of the statistical measure.

GEtz would simply argue he was merely meant to take some tough at bats against lefties away from Peters and provide him more rest down the stretch.

Edited 41 minutes ago41 min by caulfield12

4 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Doyle has a .235 xwOBA since joining the Sox, yet here we are talking about how the White Sox have transformed Doyle and he's now a win of the trade deadline. He has that despite the majority of his at bats coming against lefties with the Sox, who he's historically hit much better than righties, but with the Sox he has a .278 xwOBA against lefties which is absolutely terrible.

Yes, let's celebrate Getz for acquiring a DFA candidate with his 0 walks and 33% K-Rate in nearly 100 AB's with the Sox.

There wasn't a single good move at the deadline and it's why we're now playing a wildcard series.

There are many reasons we are playing in a wildcard series. The main reason is Mune and Colson falling off a cliff.

4 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Doyle has a .235 xwOBA since joining the Sox, yet here we are talking about how the White Sox have transformed Doyle and he's now a win of the trade deadline. He has that despite the majority of his at bats coming against lefties with the Sox, who he's historically hit much better than righties, but with the Sox he has a .278 xwOBA against lefties which is absolutely terrible.

Yes, let's celebrate Getz for acquiring a DFA candidate with his 0 walks and 33% K-Rate in nearly 100 AB's with the Sox.

There wasn't a single good move at the deadline and it's why we're now playing a wildcard series.

I do feel like if they waited a few weeks/month, they could have had both Castillo and Doyle for nothing (waiver/DFA claims) as there were prospects knocking on the door both teams wanted to play

Edited 13 minutes ago13 min by Bob Sacamano

6 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

There are many reasons we are playing in a wildcard series. The main reason is Mune and Colson falling off a cliff.

Since the deadline the Sox are 4th in position player WAR and 5th in wRC+ in all of baseball.

Meanwhile they're 22nd and 20th in pitching WAR and ERA.

They blew it because the Sox acquired no real starters at the deadline when it was a desperate need.