SoxFan1 Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 I had a baseball game so I missed our game but does anyone know how E-Lo looked today. Was he getting good velocity on the fastball. Was his cutter on? Did he improve his change-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Ditto here. Our team got crushed today by Clark (18-0!!) So I didn't see the game eigher. Can someone give me the full highlights of today's game? My friend (cub fan) told me the sox lost and my teammates were laughing cause they were cub fans. Thank god I went to soxtalk and found out we won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Ditto here. Our team got crushed today by Clark (18-0!!) So I didn't see the game eigher. Can someone give me the full highlights of today's game? My friend (cub fan) told me the sox lost and my teammates were laughing cause they were cub fans. Thank god I went to soxtalk and found out we won. 18-0. I would give an update, but I had baseball as well and missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Just my opinion, but E-Lo didn't look as sharp as he has been in the past. He had a few control issues in the early innings. But he settled down and was pretty effective until the 7th when Ozzie pulled him. He also made his pitches when he needed to, and the Sox played good defense behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillieHarris2 Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 18-0. I would give an update, but I had baseball as well and missed it. same goes had baseball too, second game ive missed cuz of baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_bears86 Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 same here but i had track practice so i missed the game recap please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 His control was a little off in a few innings, it looked like he was locating a bit too much. Also his movement doesn't seem to be fooling the hitters as much, but that was probably inevitable. The inning where he got Sweeney and Gonzalez out with RISP was impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Loaiza struggled when he tried to be too fine with his offspeed stuff. It looked like he was tiring in the 5th [getting near his pitch count limit]. Yet when he got in trouble [the 5th, 1st and 3rd, 1 out] he threw heat and they couldn't touch him. He pitched a 1,2, 3 6th by throwing heat as well. He needs to throw his FB more to set up his cutter. Overall, pretty decent outing. PS. The umps called a pretty tight zone [for both teams] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Just read that game thread and I see that we won and Scrubs lose!!!! It went from a bad day mon. to a good day wed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 He won didn't he? He had a quality start, didn't he? He was solid. Good stuff, bad location. I didn't see the whole game, but that was basically how it went, or so it seemed. As beck pointed out, once he started throwing the heater more often, he became more effective. Ozzie left him in the 6th to see if he could get Guiel, and he walked him, and that was the end of his day. Two games down for Ozzie, and still no mistakes as far as I'm concerned. That's the thing I'm happiest about. I figured Jerry would have made 4 or 5 dumbass moves by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Let's face it: Sox have no ace They have pretty good #2 and #3 in E-Lo and Marky-Malarkey, but nobody to scare people with., esp in the playoffs. Hopefully JR is smart to realize that mid-way through the season, he'll need to spend a few Mill (on top of good prospects) on the Hudson type, which would also allow Garland to slide into #4 which suits his talents more and Show/Wright into #5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Let's face it: Sox have no ace They have pretty good #2 and #3 in E-Lo and Marky-Malarkey, but nobody to scare people with., esp in the playoffs. Hopefully JR is smart to realize that mid-way through the season, he'll need to spend a few Mill (on top of good prospects) on the Hudson type, which would also allow Garland to slide into #4 which suits his talents more and Show/Wright into #5 and who is this mystery ace we are talking about??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 and who is this mystery ace we are talking about??? Creek Heinricke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Creek Heinricke By that time he will be in the offseason. I say bring Mr. Potter in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Let's face it: Sox have no ace They have pretty good #2 and #3 in E-Lo and Marky-Malarkey, but nobody to scare people with., esp in the playoffs. Hopefully JR is smart to realize that mid-way through the season, he'll need to spend a few Mill (on top of good prospects) on the Hudson type, which would also allow Garland to slide into #4 which suits his talents more and Show/Wright into #5 We don't have an intimidator if that's what you're sayin. But it was just 2 years ago that Mark Buehrle was an inning away from 20 wins. Loaiza won 21 gms last year. If those 2 can combine to close to 40 wins to go along with the expected improvment of Jon Garland "15-18" wins will have a dynamite 1-2-3- front of the rotation. Now the last 2 spots r obviously question marks. But if we're in it or even in front by June, I guarantee will go out and get another quality starter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Just read that game thread and I see that we won and Scrubs lose!!!! It went from a bad day mon. to a good day wed. Did the Spankees lose? If so then we got the trifecta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 No, the Yanks managed a split with the powerhouse Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Dunno if that bodes well for us or not. I am definately not too excited about throwing Scott Schoeneweis out there today. Heres to hoping he proves me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Brando as ever the optimist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 By that time he will be in the offseason. I say bring Mr. Potter in. Harry Potter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 well hey, if the yanks lose to TB pitching maybe we have a slight chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Trade Willie Harris for Roy Halladay! Then we will be fine! OMG I sound like a Cub fan and their wanna-be trades... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 We don't have an intimidator if that's what you're sayin. But it was just 2 years ago that Mark Buehrle was an inning away from 20 wins. Loaiza won 21 gms last year. If those 2 can combine to close to 40 wins to go along with the expected improvment of Jon Garland "15-18" wins will have a dynamite 1-2-3- front of the rotation. Now the last 2 spots r obviously question marks. But if we're in it or even in front by June, I guarantee will go out and get another quality starter... I understand what you're saying, but we won't win in the postseason with Loaiza-Buehrle-Garland as our 1-2-3. Playoffs is a possibility, but winning when we get there is virtually not. I've mentioned Kip Wells, but I had not even considered the Athletics. Their offense is much weaker this year, and if they are out at the break, they could be dealing. I'd take one(or two) of Hudson, Mulder, and Zito. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Brando as ever the optimist... I had Sox winning the division with 90+ games this season. Optimist is damn right. E-lo wasn't particularly good. Neither was Buerhle. And yet both were still leaps and bounds better than Show today in terms of pitch quality and location. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 We don't have an intimidator if that's what you're sayin. But it was just 2 years ago that Mark Buehrle was an inning away from 20 wins. Loaiza won 21 gms last year. If those 2 can combine to close to 40 wins to go along with the expected improvment of Jon Garland "15-18" wins will have a dynamite 1-2-3- front of the rotation. Now the last 2 spots r obviously question marks. But if we're in it or even in front by June, I guarantee will go out and get another quality starter... Mark Buehle's days of being an ace are over IMO. The league knows him too well and no longer chases that back door curve or slider low-in quite as much. He is still a good young pitcher, a 3.60-3.70 ERA type. Loaiza is someone you just can't project. Last year he was an ace. The rest fo his career - basically a solid #4. Garland? Come on -- he is a dumbass with no heart until proven otherwise. The good news is that this division is even worse than I thought. Even the Sox will have to try hard not to win it. But what do we do in the playoffs once we're matched up against the Carmines or the Yanks? Ok, if Koch is back then our bullpen is tolerable. If Krnny gets Roberts, outr hitting will be pretty good. All we're missing from being a LEGITIMATE WORLD SERIES CONTENDER is an ace. Over the full season, getting one is out of the question since Reiny won't pay. But at the trade deadline, having thrown in Ryan Wing-type prospects, there might be a team out there who will give up a Javier Vasquez type --- naturally at a prorated cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 E-lo wasn't particularly good. Neither was Buerhle. And yet both were still leaps and bounds better than Show today in terms of pitch quality and location. Deal with it. Deal with what? We all know that Schoenweis sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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