Some of these predictions are crazy.

Some of these predictions are crazy.

What are your predictions then aj, don't hold back on us

Some of these predictions are crazy.

My plan is better.

Some of these predictions are crazy.

I think I'll call you Cheat jr.

I'm predicting like .280, 10hrs, and 30sb... and that's great with me...

I have no idea at all. Not the slightest clue, and I can't even make a guess...there are too many variables that are undecided...how much of an effect will an extreme hitters park have on Iguchi(and USCF is an extreme hitters park...how else can you explain us hitting 242 homers last year WITHOUT Maggs and Frank for half a year? Guys stepped up, but the balls also had to have carried easier as well), how much of an effect will MLB pitching have on him, how fast is he really, how good is he really....I have never seen him play, so I can't comment. I will just say that the Sox seem to really like him, so he better atleast produce some bang for the buck.

 

However, just let me say that I think it is funny some of those who are putting up .330 OBP's and say he is an upgrade over Harris. Color me pink, but isn't a .343 OBP(plus a .366ish OBP against RHP) at > better then a .330 OBP at $2.3 mill?

 

Not saying I don't like the move...just saying he may not be nearly the upgrade some thought.

I think I'll call you Cheat jr.

 

Why because i don't think he will be great this year? I have no clue what he is gonna do but i don't see him hitting .300 in his first year with 25 homeruns and 80 rbis.

No, because we were already forewarned about having high expectations and had a couple kool-aid referrences. Did we really need it again?

Why because i don't think he will be great this year?

 

Also a stat machine.. Like Cheat.

  G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB HBP   K SB CS SH SF GIDP  AVE  OBP  SLG

 91 263  43  56  9  4  8  35 24   0  10  78  3  3  0  4    6 .212 .299 .368

162 497  87 104 27  6 22 104 28   0  10 181 16  9 11  9   10 .209 .261 .416

139 455  63 110 22  1 16  81 41   0  13 121 19  9  0  9   17 .242 .318 .400

 65 198  30  51 13  3  7  35 14   0   3  33  6  2  2  3    7 .260 .315 .463

162 628 114 156 31  2 21 115 45   0  15 143 48  8  2  7   19 .248 .311 .404

132 495  86 129 18  2 15  78 31   0  13  87 26  9  0  7   11 .259 .316 .393

156 586 122 193 29  2 20 129 70   2  17  91 46  5  0 11   12 .329 .409 .483

151 611 108 197 38  2 19 110 40   2   9 111 20  6  0 14   18 .322 .364 .485

 

Here are some updated MLE's for Iguchi. These are made by a poster over at BTF. They are corrected for League(AL) and park(USCF) -- Years go from '97 at top to '04 at bottom.

  G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB HBP   K SB CS SH SF GIDP  AVE  OBP  SLG

 91 263  43  56  9  4  8  35 24   0  10  78  3  3  0  4    6 .212 .299 .368

162 497  87 104 27  6 22 104 28   0  10 181 16  9 11  9   10 .209 .261 .416

139 455  63 110 22  1 16  81 41   0  13 121 19  9  0  9   17 .242 .318 .400

 65 198  30  51 13  3  7  35 14   0   3  33  6  2  2  3    7 .260 .315 .463

162 628 114 156 31  2 21 115 45   0  15 143 48  8  2  7   19 .248 .311 .404

132 495  86 129 18  2 15  78 31   0  13  87 26  9  0  7   11 .259 .316 .393

156 586 122 193 29  2 20 129 70   2  17  91 46  5  0 11   12 .329 .409 .483

151 611 108 197 38  2 19 110 40   2   9 111 20  6  0 14   18 .322 .364 .485

 

Here are some updated MLE's for Iguchi. These are made by a poster over at BTF.  They are corrected for League(AL) and park(USCF) -- Years go from '97 at top to '04 at bottom.

I know you have doubts on Iguchi Gene, and you've got every right to. But looking at those last 2 seasons, gives me more hope than not, especially after he changed his batting stance, and starting hitting the ball over all parts of the park, and not just pulling the fastball. If he does that here, I think he'll do fine, but like I've said before he'll have to make adjustments with the 2 seam fastball.

.329 20 129 .409 .483 .892 and .322 19 110 .364 .485 .849 should not be expected at all, nor should they be predicted.

 

I'll just say I wouldn't throw .250 15 50 .310 .390 .700 out the window, and I'm not gonna throw .310 25 100 .380 .470 .850 out the window either. I have no idea what we can expect from this guy.

i am happy the sox are still trying to improve this offseason.

 

however, i find this unusual that i am in agreement with qwerty, man i never thought i would agree with him on anything, but why does alot of people think he is going to put up some good numbers.

 

is the japanese league = mlb............ no

 

so why do people think he is going to put mlb # up.

We don't know what kind of numbers he'll put up. People are making as close to an educated guess as possible. That's what you are seeing. No one is arguing the point that it is all speculative.

Hey, do you watch Japanese baseball at all? Many major league players, while some don't like to admit it, say its a higher level of baseball than AAA. Maybe its not quite up to the major's standards, but I'd say about 40% of its players could easily get starting jobs in the U.S. Most of them pitchers.

Hey, do you watch Japanese baseball at all?  Many major league players, while some don't like to admit it, say its a higher level of baseball than AAA.  Maybe its not quite up to the major's standards, but I'd say about 40% of its players could easily get starting jobs in the U.S.  Most of them pitchers.

 

I have heard japanese baseball considered ''4a''.

I have heard japanese baseball considered ''4a''.

Bryant Nelson had a season in Japan before he came back to play for Charlotte last season. I'd be interested to see the stats while he was playing over there.

Bryant Nelson had a season in Japan before he came back to play for Charlotte last season. I'd be interested to see the stats while he was playing over there.

.228/.256/.323 -- but I would say the same thing about a player headed over there... You hear DJ talk about the "Shooto" all the time, and over here the japanese playeres have to adjust to the difference between the speeds, and the 2 seam fastball.

 

Edit: He played on Iguchi's team.

Edited January 25, 200521 yr by Gene Honda Civic

I have heard japanese baseball considered ''4a''.

 

 

by whom???????????

Hey, do you watch Japanese baseball at all?  Many major league players, while some don't like to admit it, say its a higher level of baseball than AAA.  Maybe its not quite up to the major's standards, but I'd say about 40% of its players could easily get starting jobs in the U.S.  Most of them pitchers.

 

 

well i may not agree with your 40% assessment, since we are both not in the professional level of judging talent and grading the league. i will give way to you knowledge of baseball in japan.

 

if it is 40% then why wasn't this guy snatch up and courted by other teams????

Why did he have to settle for less than what he was asking for?

why isn't there more influx of those players this offseason?

 

i know i may coming across strong, but i am not in the thinking of this guy putting up good numbers. i will cheer for him and hope for the best. i love the move and if it pays off great. if not, i am still in the thinking that we had nothing to loose and all to gain in getting this guy here.

 

fyi ............... many who posted and predicted good numbers will turn on him if he fails. i will still be in his corner saying that the risk in getting him was a worthwhile risk. i just want him to be given a chance without any major expectations.

by whom???????????

 

Magazine's and various articles. They say the talent is above triple a and below major league talent for the most part. Which makes sense i think.

Magazine's and various articles. They say the talent is above triple a and below major league talent for the most part. Which makes sense i think.

 

you may be right, i read as much as the next guy and i don't remember reading such a thing.

 

i will give way to you on this.

you may be right, i read as much as the next guy and i don't remember reading such a thing.

 

i will give way to you on this.

 

4A is exactly the terminology I had in my head. Of course, qwerty may have put there at some point.

 

 

 

Or .... I may have planted it in qwerty's head at some point.

Bryant Nelson had a season in Japan before he came back to play for Charlotte last season. I'd be interested to see the stats while he was playing over there.

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Yep, Bryant Nelson played with Iguchi. But he was pretty bad...

 

http://www.japanesebaseball.com/players/pl...p?PlayerID=1604

 

167 AB

.228 AVG

.323 SLG

.256 OBP

3 HR

17 RBI

2 SB

7 BB

29 K