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Mariners @ Sox Game Thread (4/17, 2:05 p.m. CT)

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Wow

 

WHAT THE f*** IS IT WITH STEALS

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f*** that....terrible managing by Ozzie....yet again. You can't make the last out trying to steal a f***ing base. Nice to see our former players (Olivo, Valdez) beat us today.

f*** YOU WILLIE!!!!!!!!

 

LEARN HOW TO STEAL!!!

QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 17, 2005 -> 09:57 PM)
f*** YOU WILLIE!!!!!!!!

 

LEARN HOW TO STEAL!!!

wtf willie you f***ing suck

Am i the only one that wanted willie to tag on the fly ball to the warning track?

Running on Olivo with two out in a one run game... Sorry that is not smart ball.

I would have sent him, it owuld have put us a hit away from tieing. TOo bad Brian Roberts continues to haunt Willie Harris

QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 17, 2005 -> 04:59 PM)
Am i the only one that wanted willie to tag on the fly ball to the warning track?

No, DJ mentioned that too.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 17, 2005 -> 03:59 PM)
Am i the only one that wanted willie to tag on the fly ball to the warning track?

 

 

He probably should have. I have to eat one though. I called for him to steal in the chat and he did.

 

f***!!!!!!!

 

 

Now lets go get Minny.

Alright we won another series...lol

 

Now lets forget about it and take 2 from Minnesota

It's always puzzled me in general why more players don't tag up from first on a ball to right or right-center. WHo caught Uribe's ball Ichiro or Reed? THat probably makes a difference

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 17, 2005 -> 04:00 PM)
Alright we won another series...lol

 

Now lets forget about it and take 2 from Minnesota

 

 

If we hold true to form we'll win tomorrow and lose on Tuesday.

I wanted Willie to check up too. Anyway, that's why you don't steal with your only out. They knew it was coming and Olivo is behind the plate. Dumb move.

The only solace in all this...

 

Minnesota lost too.

 

The Sox are still tied for 1st.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Apr 17, 2005 -> 06:01 PM)
If we hold true to form we'll win tomorrow and lose on Tuesday.

Actually, if the Sox hold true to form, their next loss will be Thursday vs. Det.

Just so all of you people that b**** at Ozzie for bunting Iguchi did it on his own in the 1st

Olivo is usually 50% or better on catching runners stealing. We already know Willie gets bad jumps so it was a bad idea. We probably still lose if he doesn't run though.

 

Dye's error and Garcia's subsequent meltdown cost us this game today.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 17, 2005 -> 06:05 PM)
Just so all of you people that b**** at Ozzie for bunting Iguchi did it on his own in the 1st

What Willie is trying to say here is:

 

Just so all of you (people that b**** at Ozzie for bunting) know, Iguchi did it on his own in the 1st.

QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 17, 2005 -> 05:02 PM)
Actually, if the Sox hold true to form, their next loss will be Thursday vs. Det.

I think it will be next Sunday. They win the first two games of ther series, so since there isn't a third game in the Twins and Tigers series....... can you say "6 game winning streak?" :cheers :pray

I hate ot overreact after a bad outing and his numbers this year are still good, but I'm starting to believe the Baseball Prospectus about Garcia not really being a whole lot better than average as a starter. I think it's clear now after 4-5 months of season on this team that he isn't a number one starter and maybe he's better as a third starter

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Apr 17, 2005 -> 04:11 PM)
I hate ot overreact after a bad outing and his numbers this year are still good, but I'm starting to believe the Baseball Prospectus about Garcia not really being a whole lot better than average as a starter. I think it's clear now after 4-5 months of season on this team that he isn't a number one starter and maybe he's better as a third starter

Career 116 ERA+ isn't a number one starter but I think two is fair.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Apr 17, 2005 -> 06:11 PM)
I hate ot overreact after a bad outing and his numbers this year are still good, but I'm starting to believe the Baseball Prospectus about Garcia not really being a whole lot better than average as a starter. I think it's clear now after 4-5 months of season on this team that he isn't a number one starter and maybe he's better as a third starter

I said that awhile back.

 

Garcia is average. Not a #1.

 

I can see 12-13 wins, with an ERA of 3.90-4.30.

 

And, that is optomistic.

just to play devil's advocate on that-a lot of those games at Safeco......

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Apr 17, 2005 -> 04:13 PM)
just to play devil's advocate on that-a lot of those games at Safeco......

ERA+ accounts for the parks you pitch in.

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