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4th of July Game Thread Sox vs. DRays

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 4, 2005 -> 10:03 PM)
Baj gets guys out.  I'm not saying he's gonna be a star in the bullpen, but he can be effective. 

 

I dunno, this is the same organization that didn't like how Chad Bradford threw, either...

 

Who knows. Maybe they are scared of the fact that he gave up 21 base runners in 8 innings last year in a non pressure situation

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QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:01 PM)
Jenks up is a very not good idea.

It's pretty hard to imagine how a guy with better stats at a higher level doesn't get called up in favor of a guy who had worse stats and throws in a pitchers park.

 

Just my $0.02.

Wondering if Jenks is being included in a possible deal.

What if the Barons announced Jenks was heading to the Majors... and we are just assuming it is with the Sox.

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jul 4, 2005 -> 10:00 PM)
what, i just wish they would do it before the game, the whole i love the country thing is great and remembering 9/11, just it makes more sense before the game

 

i know repetitive

 

 

 

Uh, it's Independence Day

Hawk and DJ have been blowing Crede ever since he made an out. They're really trying to push the point across that he's valuable for his defense. We get it.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 04:05 AM)
Who knows. Maybe they are scared of the fact that he gave up 21 base runners in 8 innings last year in a non pressure situation

 

In 8 innings pitched... really?

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:05 PM)
Who knows. Maybe they are scared of the fact that he gave up 21 base runners in 8 innings last year in a non pressure situation

But seriously are you going to take a sample size of 8 innings, or have a look at the way he's thrown at B-Ham and Charlotte over the last season and a half?

Shingo since June 1.

 

8 games, 10 1/3 IP, 5 hits, 3 runs, 1 hr, 4bb, 12 k, 2.61 ERA

QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:05 PM)
Wondering if Jenks is being included in a possible deal.

What if the Barons announced Jenks was heading to the Majors... and we are just assuming it is with the Sox.

I think it's way more likely Baj gets included in a deal before Jenks.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 4, 2005 -> 10:07 PM)
But seriously are you going to take a sample size of 8 innings, or have a look at the way he's thrown at B-Ham and Charlotte over the last season and a half?

 

I'm not saying what I would do. Just trying to look at what he's thinking. They might be kind of jittery because we've had a lot of guys throw extremely extremely well in the minors the past couple of years only to come up and absolutely suck at the big league level.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 04:07 AM)
I think it's way more likely Baj gets included in a deal before Jenks.

 

It could be argued that Kenny Williams' two best moves were ones that had no bearing on the ML roster. That of picking up Bobby Jenks, and trading Alex Escobar for Jerry Owens.

 

Of course, you could make better arguments for Iguchi and Pierzynski, but I'm just sayin'... :D

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 4, 2005 -> 10:05 PM)
Who knows. Maybe they are scared of the fact that he gave up 21 base runners in 8 innings last year in a non pressure situation

 

 

They had no problem bringing up Kevin Walker, not once, but twice. And he hasn't done a damn thing all year.

nice throws by dye and iguchi

WHAT A f***ING PLAY

Gath had no reason to go to 3rd there.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 4, 2005 -> 11:07 PM)
But seriously are you going to take a sample size of 8 innings, or have a look at the way he's thrown at B-Ham and Charlotte over the last season and a half?

Obviously they are looking at those 8 innings pitched as a pretty big deal seeing how Jenks is on his way here.

Haha, eat s***, Gathright.

QUOTE(SHAFTR @ Jul 4, 2005 -> 10:07 PM)
Shingo since June 1.

 

8 games, 10 1/3 IP, 5 hits, 3 runs, 1 hr, 4bb, 12 k, 2.61 ERA

 

 

Me likes.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:08 PM)
I'm not saying what I would do. Just trying to look at what he's thinking. They might be kind of jittery because we've had a lot of guys throw extremely extremely well in the minors the past couple of years only to come up and absolutely suck at the big league level.

Yeah I know, my thinking with that though is this, Arnie Munoz posted real good stats in September last year compared to Baj but is sucking it up in Charlotte. Who would you call up first?

Shingo is not supposed to pitch this long.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 4, 2005 -> 11:10 PM)
Shingo is not supposed to pitch this long.

your right after that solo shot

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 4, 2005 -> 11:10 PM)
Shingo is not supposed to pitch this long.

 

I was about to say that.

What the f*** is Ozzie doing? Cotts should have been in to start this inning. Shingo has never been very good after a full inning.

This game should have been in the hands of Cotts, Cliff, and Hermanson for the last two innings. Why is it that when Ozzie has a bad managing game, it just seems to snowball that entire game?

Are all games against Tampa on the 4th of July this crazy?

Great job by Shingo. It's tough to be out there that long for him, but we need him. He got the job done over 2.1 innings.

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