dmbjeff Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 3-4 prospects make sense, thats what they were gonna get in the 3 team deal with BOS and NYM, as long as it isnt 4 of our top 10 prospects, it might be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(dmbjeff @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 09:56 PM) 3-4 prospects make sense, thats what they were gonna get in the 3 team deal with BOS and NYM, as long as it isnt 4 of our top 10 prospects, it might be ok and in addition, if we only have to trade prospects, we can then still keep marte, which i think is a big piece of the bullpen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(dmbjeff @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 03:56 AM) 3-4 prospects make sense, thats what they were gonna get in the 3 team deal with BOS and NYM, as long as it isnt 4 of our top 10 prospects, it might be ok It will definitely be 4 of our better prospects. The guys they were supposed to get in the Bos/NYM trade were top-notch. I have a feeling if this trade goes down, there's going to be a lot of people shedding a tear over their favorite prospects gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 10:54 PM) espn can say what they want, they are not the ones in contact with other teams negotiating deals you mean Steve Phillips actually isn't the GM? I thought phillips was negotiating deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 09:54 PM) espn can say what they want, they are not the ones in contact with other teams negotiating deals It would definitely take 3-4 spects to land those two, that's why at the moment I think the best bet is to just go for Huff and I do like Baez. Huff is just a great hitter and he'd be a godsend in this lineup. I'm hoping for Aubrey, he's the guy I really want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 11:25 PM) It would definitely take 3-4 spects to land those two, that's why at the moment I think the best bet is to just go for Huff and I do like Baez. Huff is just a great hitter and he'd be a godsend in this lineup. I'm hoping for Aubrey, he's the guy I really want. im hoping it takes three to get both, only reason id add a fourth is to see if we could ship one of our relievers (vizcaino). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I don't want to give up our top prospects, but hey, I'm in my 40s and I want to win a World Series before I die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I don't see us trading for anyone. Not even Mackowiak. I definately don't see this team doing anything major. Jayson Stark said that we made one last huge push for Schmidt, but the Giants don't want to trade him. Eh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Why not give them 4-5 prospects and get Lugo to replace Willie. Phillies rumored going after Baez. KW going after Baez. Baez and the rest of the Sox good prospects for Wagner? Go for it KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 11:45 PM) I don't see us trading for anyone. Not even Mackowiak. I definately don't see this team doing anything major. Jayson Stark said that we made one last huge push for Schmidt, but the Giants don't want to trade him. Eh well. I gaurantee that the Sox make atleast one trade between now and the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 02:21 AM) I would say they are moving sideways. Jesse Foppert also went in the deal. He had as much fan fare and upside as Mcarthy, and he hasn't turned out to be anything. That was an awful trade for SF. So, trade three of your best young pitchers (Williams + Foppert + Aarsdma) for Hawkins and Winn? Randy f***ing Winn? So, rather than keeping their young talent, they're going to make an attempt at that weak division by getting Randy f'n Winn? Mercy, Sabean is a f***ing moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 10:47 PM) That was an awful trade for SF. So, trade three of your best young pitchers (Williams + Foppert + Aarsdma) for Hawkins and Winn? Randy f***ing Winn? So, rather than keeping their young talent, they're going to make an attempt at that weak division by getting Randy f'n Winn? Mercy, Sabean is a f***ing moron. Sabean just makes me laugh, is he ever going to try and get younger or is his goal to have the average age of his team at 40? Edited July 31, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 4-5 prospects for Julio Lugo? Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 10:54 PM) 4-5 prospects for Julio Lugo? Ouch. I think he meant Huff and Lugo. Either way, I don't want Lugo booting the ball everyday for the sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Clarification: 4-5 prospects for Huff, Baez, and Lugo. Assuming that the price for Huff and Baez is 3-4 prospects. Seriously though, I'd be thrilled with just Huff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 If Huff and Baez were on two different teams and you were going acquire them both, it would take at least 4 prospects to do it. Think Alomar and Everett. It took what? ...5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 12:55 AM) I think he meant Huff and Lugo. Either way, I don't want Lugo booting the ball everyday for the sox. Let them take Willie too s***. BTW, who is that in your avy. I've always wanted to ask... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 11:01 PM) Let them take Willie too s***. BTW, who is that in your avy. I've always wanted to ask... Chris Getz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 01:02 AM) Chris Getz. Gotcha, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Maybe its their Devil Ray background distorting my view but I just hate the idea of giving up B-Mac and plenty more for three of their guys. And I'm well aware of the three in question from fantasy leagues and I've seen them a bit but it just gives me an uneasy feeling. With Schmidt, Burnett, Wagner, Griffey, or people of that ilk-I can be bothered by what we are giving up but I would be happy with what we get back. With the Tampa fire sale, its just too unproven of a package for me to feel that THIS makes us World Series favorites and that is the criteria that you must be judged by if you are going to trade the future for the present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 IMO Huff - Proven hitter. Can play 3B/1B/OF/DH. Left handed power. Huge upgrade over Carl Everett. Baez - meh, I don't like him as much as most people do. I wouldn't give up anything of substance for him which would mean most likely not getting him at all. Lugo - no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 11:13 PM) IMO Huff - Proven hitter. Can play 3B/1B/OF/DH. Left handed power. Huge upgrade over Carl Everett. Baez - meh, I don't like him as much as most people do. I wouldn't give up anything of substance for him which would mean most likely not getting him at all. Lugo - no With Huff and Lugo I have the same feelings as you. I actually like Baez but the asking price is so ridiculous it's just not worth it. Huff's a guy I would be willing to overpay for, Baez--definitely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 01:08 AM) Maybe its their Devil Ray background distorting my view but I just hate the idea of giving up B-Mac and plenty more for three of their guys. And I'm well aware of the three in question from fantasy leagues and I've seen them a bit but it just gives me an uneasy feeling. With Schmidt, Burnett, Wagner, Griffey, or people of that ilk-I can be bothered by what we are giving up but I would be happy with what we get back. With the Tampa fire sale, its just too unproven of a package for me to feel that THIS makes us World Series favorites and that is the criteria that you must be judged by if you are going to trade the future for the present. Wow. If you honestly think Huff and Baez are not proven then, IMO, you are mistaken. Baez whooped our ass when he was with Cleveland and he is a good reliever, better than Jizzcan at least. Huff is a great bat and I would love to see him as our starting 1B in 2006. I like the trade but for the right price. LETS GO FOR IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 12:14 AM) With Huff and Lugo I have the same feelings as you. I actually like Baez but the asking price is so ridiculous it's just not worth it. Huff's a guy I would be willing to overpay for, Baez--definitely not. Yeah, I'd love beaz in our pen don't get me wrong. I just don't think he's worth a Chris Young or Ryan Sweeney. Edited July 31, 2005 by Kalapse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 11:16 PM) Yeah, I'd love beaz in our pen don't get me wroung. I just don't think he's worth a Chris Young or Ryan Sweeney. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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