August 9, 200520 yr http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3875540 Personally, I don't want to root for somebody like him, or do anything to mess with the chemistry of the team (add a media circus that would be distracting), but I thought I'd throw it out there.
August 9, 200520 yr Rafeal Palmeiro is a lying, cheating bastard there is absolutely no way in hell I ever want him anywhere near the White Sox. I hope he never plays in the big leagues again, baseball would be better off.
August 9, 200520 yr Author QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 01:11 PM) Rafeal Palmeiro is a lying, cheating bastard there is absolutely no way in hell I ever want him anywhere near the White Sox. I hope he never plays in the big leagues again, baseball would be better off. I agree with you, but there is so much speculation around here about adding another bat...He could be available, I don't want him, but others may disagree.
August 9, 200520 yr And if he wins the world series...he's a lying prick that doesn't deserve the HOF, but would get my applause for helping the Sox cause I do think he makes them a better team. Plus as much as I hate the fact that he was juicing, I also must admit he's known as a very classy guy whose well liked in the clubhouse.
August 9, 200520 yr QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 01:20 PM) And if he wins the world series...he's a lying prick that doesn't deserve the HOF, but would get my applause for helping the Sox cause I do think he makes them a better team. Plus as much as I hate the fact that he was juicing, I also must admit he's known as a very classy guy whose well liked in the clubhouse. I would never stoop so low as to pick up a known juicer just to make a push in the playoffs. I'd much rather go the rest of the season with Everett at DH than have a POS like Palmeiro in the lineup. I know that everyone seems to like him and he's always been a good guy but anyone who would s*** on the game and embarras his team, family and sport like he has is not welcome on any team I cheer for.
August 9, 200520 yr http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3875540 Personally, I don't want to root for somebody like him, or do anything to mess with the chemistry of the team Raffy knows all about chemistry.
August 9, 200520 yr Kalapse, I know what you are saying, but the stupidest thing he did was get caught. Sorry buddy, but I am guaranteeing you that a lot of your fav players have at one time or another juiced. That would make half of the league liars and cheaters, etc. I respect the man for coming back and taking the brunt of the fans anger. It's going to take a lot of strength (this time without the 'roids) to do that. I don't like what he did, I certainly don't condone it, but he did it, paid the price that was handed down and is being reinstated. If he gets caught again, ban him from baseball. EDIT: As for picking him up, no. But not because of him juicing, but because of the media circus surrounding him. Edited August 9, 200520 yr by TheDybber
August 9, 200520 yr QUOTE(TheDybber @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 01:49 PM) Kalapse, I know what you are saying, but the stupidest thing he did was get caught. Sorry buddy, but I am guaranteeing you that a lot of your fav players have at one time or another juiced. That would make half of the league liars and cheaters, etc. I respect the man for coming back and taking the brunt of the fans anger. It's going to take a lot of strength (this time without the 'roids) to do that. I don't like what he did, I certainly don't condone it, but he did it, paid the price that was handed down and is being reinstated. If he gets caught again, ban him from baseball. EDIT: As for picking him up, no. But not because of him juicing, but because of the media circus surrounding him. I have no respect for him simply because he's comming back, that makes no sense. Sure a lot of baseball players juice most likely but there's no proof of it. Palmeiro juiced and got caught then the worst part of all lied about not taking them. f*** him. I gained a little respect for a ballplayer who has been caught juicing, his name is Jorge Piedra, he admitted that he took steroids and said he was looking for a competitive edge. AWESOMENESS an athlete who didn't lie to me, thank you Jorge.
August 9, 200520 yr I wonder what Yankees fans think of Giambi right around now? I know they were ready to draw and quarter him before the season, i wonder if the sentiment has changed?
August 9, 200520 yr No to Palmiero. Besides if the Sox picked him up and won something there would be an asterik by it. Anybody who testifies before Congress that he never has done steriods after it was published in a book and then tests positive for steriods 2 months later to taint his accomplishment of 3000 hits, has to be one of the biggest idiots in the world. Edited August 9, 200520 yr by Dick Allen
August 9, 200520 yr "...because of the media circus surrounding him. Exactly, people already look for reasons to not like the Sox. Why give them one more? but wait, Canseco ALREADY played for the Sox. Edited August 9, 200520 yr by LosMediasBlancas
August 9, 200520 yr Hmm Raffy must have asked Sosa what helped you to get 60 HRs? f*** Raffy, I was a fan but after this BS.. f*** him.. He and Sosa can argue who is a bigger Ego.
August 9, 200520 yr QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 03:44 PM) Hmm Raffy must have asked Sosa what helped you to get 60 HRs? f*** Raffy, I was a fan but after this BS.. f*** him.. He and Sosa can argue who is a bigger Ego. Honestly, if I was Balt I would drop both Raffy and Sosa, Raffy based on his cheating and Sosa based on performance. Maybe trade him to TB, they always need some crap.
August 9, 200520 yr QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 12:25 PM) I would never stoop so low as to pick up a known juicer just to make a push in the playoffs. I'd much rather go the rest of the season with Everett at DH than have a POS like Palmeiro in the lineup. I know that everyone seems to like him and he's always been a good guy but anyone who would s*** on the game and embarras his team, family and sport like he has is not welcome on any team I cheer for. What about when we picked up Jose Canseco? How did you feel then?
August 9, 200520 yr QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 10:31 PM) What about when we picked up Jose Canseco? How did you feel then? Was he even connected to steroids back then? Different story.
August 9, 200520 yr QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 04:37 PM) Was he even connected to steroids back then? Different story. I don't know, I was 10 or 11 and don't remember if he was. I figured someone older than me would know the answer to your question.
August 10, 200520 yr I disapprove of Palmeiro's juicing, but the one thing that always occurs to me whenever a controversy like this occurs is that steroids don't help your batting eye, quick wrists, glove, or any of the many other natural talents you need to be a good player. If Palmeiro has used steroids during his entire career, he deserves whatever s*** he gets, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's not a talented player who could help the Sox. Rip me for saying all this stuff if you like, but everyone (including potential Hall of Famers) makes mistakes...
August 10, 200520 yr Nobody really KNEW anything about Canseco and steroids ( at least at the management level) but a lot of people pretty much assumed. I don't blame the Sox at all but they probably did tell themselves what they wanted to hear.
August 10, 200520 yr I don't know, the rules are there for a reason, he got caught, served his time, yes he lied, others have lied as well. Lets weigh the options, Raffy Vs. Timo, you decide.
August 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 02:10 PM) I wonder what Yankees fans think of Giambi right around now? I know they were ready to draw and quarter him before the season, i wonder if the sentiment has changed? Giambi didn't go in front of the world and swear with his right hand that he never took steroids... period.
August 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 08:57 AM) Giambi didn't go in front of the world and swear with his right hand that he never took steroids... period. Which instantly makes Giambi at least respectable in my eyes. He all but admitted being a user, whereas Palmeiro gave us the "I never had sexual relations with that woman" speech.
August 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 09:01 AM) Which instantly makes Giambi at least respectable in my eyes. He all but admitted being a user, whereas Palmeiro gave us the "I never had sexual relations with that woman" speech. If Giambi could have.. I think he would have. He's still under gag with the BALCO investigation and upcomming trial. I suspect after it's over he'll tell his side of the story.
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