quickman Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:29 PM) ANd then you can say Santana is having the better year. But unless you can accurately tell the future, you have no point. but I can, just like tonight I said he would give up 6-7 runs. it happened. When BMAC gets shelled maybe you will believe the great karmac! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:29 PM) You get your wish. Now I'd like to see Pk come up as the go ahead run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:28 PM) Example: Head to Head Gm 1 9ip 2er w Pitcher#2 Gm1 9ip 5er l Gm2 9ip 5er l Gm2 9ip 4er w Gm3 9ip 2er l Gm3 9ip 1er w Pitcher #1 1-2 3.00 era Pitcher #2 2-1 3.33 era Call me crazy, but I'd go with pitcher #2. Yah, that works over 3 games, but over the course of the season, if a guy has a higher with more wins, that means his offense has scored more runs. Wins are not an indicator of a pitchers performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:29 PM) Mark has given up 63 ER in 189.2 innings. Santana has given up 66 ER in 188 innings. So those 3 ERs really make a huge difference. Including tonight, Buehrle has allowed 20 unearned runs, Santana 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Damn damn damn, I get so few chances to see the Sox on real tv and I frickin' forget they are on. Just tuned in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the southside tiger Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 If Ryan offered Santana for Mark Buerhle straight up. KW would yell DEAL before Ryan got Santa out of his mouth. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Any sane man would. Buehrle is well above average, but Santana is excellent. And consistent, something MB is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:31 PM) Karsay is way past his prime, but its good to see the Sox still not have the quit in them. *Waiting for the 14 negitive posts to follow................* aren't you going to argue just for the sake of arguing? like everyone else in this thread? this gamethread was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:31 PM) Yah, that works over 3 games, but over the course of the season, if a guy has a higher with more wins, that means his offense has scored more runs. Wins are not an indicator of a pitchers performance. And the difference is 3 earned runs over 27 starts. Santana has allowed 14 fewer runs overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:31 PM) Damn damn damn, I get so few chances to see the Sox on real tv and I frickin' forget they are on. Just tuned in. You haven't missed much till now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 02:31 AM) Now I'd like to see Pk come up as the go ahead run Hell, you were 1 for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(the southside tiger @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:32 PM) Any sane man would. Buehrle is well above average, but Santana is excellent. And consistent, something MB is not. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah those 49 consecutive starts with 6+ innings sure don't mean s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the southside tiger Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I hate these f***in letdown rallies. Either do it or dont. But dont be a tease, and lead me on, and then fail in the end. That just gets my hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 If we had santana somebody would b**** about him, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 And we lose...........Get em BOTH tomorrow guys!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I didn't get the chance to see the game, only updates on Yahoo. How did Iguchi get 3 errors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 10:32 PM) aren't you going to argue just for the sake of arguing? like everyone else in this thread? this gamethread was awful. This was a game thread? Could have fooled me. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(the southside tiger @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:34 PM) I hate these f***in letdown rallies. Either do it or dont. But dont be a tease, and lead me on, and then fail in the end. That just gets my hopes up. Did you think we were actually going to comeback? Edited August 30, 2005 by CYGarland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(WinninUgly @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:34 PM) I didn't get the chance to see the game, only updates on Yahoo. How did Iguchi get 3 errors? I think he has hit the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the southside tiger Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Yeah those 49 consecutive starts with 6+ innings sure don't mean s***. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All that does is save the pen. He did that tonight, didnt he? And did it help us in anyway except our pen isnt worn down? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(the southside tiger @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:36 PM) All that does is save the pen. He did that tonight, didnt he? And did it help us in anyway except our pen isnt worn down? No. I believe they have the same number of QS. Isn't that a pretty good measure of consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the southside tiger Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Did you think we were actually going to comeback? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, but when Everett came up he was the tying run so I though we had a chance. The April team would have done it. This team just doesnt have it in them. Now the question is, is the October team the April team or the August team? If its the latter, were f***ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:35 PM) Bad defense. Sorry, I should have 5 posts taken away for that, but it was right in front of me, I had to take it. Thanks, but I was talking about the actual plays, were they that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(the southside tiger @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:36 PM) All that does is save the pen. He did that tonight, didnt he? And did it help us in anyway except our pen isnt worn down? No. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Uhhh, we have 3 games to play in 2 days. We need our pen. Sheesh, I thought that was obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Actually this game thread wasn't that bad. We were getting our butt kicked, so... there was reason to debate as opposed to the ass-kicking. It didn't get too personal, and I thank you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I hate these f***in letdown rallies. Either do it or dont. But dont be a tease, and lead me on, and then fail in the end. That just gets my hopes up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wow, does this poster sound like Brando or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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