Somebody confirm this is correct:

 

Yankees and Red Sox have each lost 64. They play three games to finish the season. That means that one of the two will finish with a minimum of 66 losses.

 

If we win four of the last eight, we would be 97-65.

 

Therefore, unless I'm missing something, four more wins by us secures the wildcard?

 

Right?

 

Sure, I'd rather stand up to Cleveland and win the division.

 

But one step at a time is fine with me.

Edited September 25, 200520 yr by winninguglyin83

Somebody confirm this is correct:

 

Yankees and Red Sox have each lost 64. They play three games to finish the season. That means that one of the two will finish with a minimum of 66 losses.

 

If we win four of the last eight, we would be 97-65.

 

Therefore, unless I'm missing something, four more wins by us secures the wildcard?

 

Right?

 

Sure, I'd rather stand up to Cleveland and win the division.

 

But one step at a time is fine with me.

 

Theoretically 4, Technically 6... you cant take games off that havent been played yet!!

http://riot.ieor.berkeley.edu/%7Ebaseball/...can_league.html

 

Just add one to the "Clinch playoff" number here. That means 4 more wins and we are without a doubt in the postseason.

This just made me think. When was the last time the AL Central had two teams in the play offs?

This just made me think.  When was the last time the AL Central had two teams in the play offs?

 

Never.

93-61 CWS: 1vMIN, 4@DET, 3@CLE

92-63 CLE: 1@KCR, 3vTBD,3vCWS

90-64 BOS:1@BAL, 4vTBJ,3vNYY

90-64 NYY: 1vTBJ,4@BAL,3@BOS

85-69 OAK: 1vTEX,4vLAA,3@SEA

89-65 LAA: 1vTBD,4@OAK,3@TEX

 

H2H BOS-NYY means a best case 96-66 for one of them. With 3 more wins the CWS can do no worse than tie the #2 ALE. I think that means a 1 gm playoff for the WC.

 

tie WC: To avoid elimination from WC contention CWS need 3 more wins.

win WC: To guarantee at least a WC spot in the ALDS CWS need 4 more wins.

clinch ALHF: To clinch the ALC+ALHF the CWS need 6 more wins.

Edited September 25, 200520 yr by JUGGERNAUT

Can we take the Indians and convince them to put on hats that say "NY" when they play Tampa Bay?

Can we take the Indians and convince them to put on hats that say "NY" when they play Tampa Bay?

 

I think Tampa is going to play Cle tough. Tampa has been giving the Angels a series.

I think Tampa is going to play Cle tough. Tampa has been giving the Angels a series.

I think the Angels have won something like 7 in a row.

I think the Angels have won something like 7 in a row.

 

8.

 

I'm just making the point that Tampa won't be a cakewalk.

8.

 

I'm just making the point that Tampa won't be a cakewalk.

 

Unlike f***in' KC who just seems to roll over and die for Cleveland, but actually plays the Sox tough.

 

(I know that's not what happened...but holy hell does it look like that)

93-61 CWS: 1vMIN, 4@DET, 3@CLE 

92-63 CLE: 1@KCR, 3vTBD,3vCWS

90-64 BOS:1@BAL, 4vTBJ,3vNYY

90-64 NYY: 1vTBJ,4@BAL,3@BOS

85-69 OAK: 1vTEX,4vLAA,3@SEA

89-65 LAA: 1vTBD,4@OAK,3@TEX

 

H2H BOS-NYY means a best case 96-66 for one of them.  With 3 more wins the CWS can do no worse than tie the #2 ALE.  I think that means a 1 gm playoff for the WC.

 

tie WC: To avoid elimination from WC contention CWS need 3 more wins.

win WC: To guarantee at least a WC spot in the ALDS CWS need 4 more wins.

clinch ALHF: To clinch the ALC+ALHF the CWS need 6 more wins.

 

Who is TBJ?

Who is TBJ?

 

jays

Here goes a try at the current numbers (Sunday Evening)

 

Yank/Bo Sox 91-65 with 6 games remaining

White Sox 94 wins

 

If both the BoSox and Yankees win all three games to start this week, they would be sitting at 94 wins going into the final weekend.

 

Possible outcomes

 

3-0

Wildcard winner would need 95 wins (Sox need 1)

 

2-1

One team finishes with 96 the other 95 (Sox need 2)

 

As Freddy Prinz would say "Loooking Goood!"

Here goes a try at the current numbers (Sunday Evening)

 

Yank/Bo Sox 91-65 with 6 games remaining

White Sox 94 wins

 

If both the BoSox and Yankees win all three games to start this week, they would be sitting at 94 wins going into the final weekend.

 

Possible outcomes

 

3-0

Wildcard winner would need 95 wins (Sox need 1)

 

2-1

One team finishes with 96 the other 95 (Sox need 2)

 

As Freddy Prinz would say "Loooking Goood!"

Tex you're math is off a bit because the yankees and the redsox each have 7 games left. Just add one win to what you said, 3 wins and we clinch the wildcard.

Here goes a try at the current numbers (Sunday Evening)

 

Yank/Bo Sox 91-65 with 6 games remaining

White Sox 94 wins

 

If both the BoSox and Yankees win all three games to start this week, they would be sitting at 94 wins going into the final weekend.

 

Possible outcomes

 

3-0

Wildcard winner would need 95 wins (Sox need 1)

 

2-1

One team finishes with 96 the other 95 (Sox need 2)

 

As Freddy Prinz would say "Loooking Goood!"

 

Would be good except the Yanks and BoSox are both 91-64 so the Sox need 3 wins to clinch.

The site I jumped on had them at 65 loses. Thanks for spotting that.

three wins indeed clinches wildcard.

 

That would take some pressure off the boys as they head into Cleveland.

 

THIS TIME the Sox could play relaxed -- and the freakin heat would be on The Tribe.

94-61 CWS: 4@DET, 3@CLE

92-64 CLE: 3vTBD,3vCWS

91-64 BOS: 4vTBJ,3vNYY

91-64 NYY: 4@BAL,3@BOS

85-70 OAK: 4vLAA,3@SEA

89-66 LAA: 4@OAK,3@TEX

 

tie WC: 2 more wins.

win WC: 3 more wins.

win ALC: 4 more wins.

win ALHF: 5 more wins.

94-61 CWS: 4@DET, 3@CLE 

92-64 CLE:  3vTBD,3vCWS     

91-64 BOS: 4vTBJ,3vNYY

91-64 NYY:  4@BAL,3@BOS

85-70 OAK: 4vLAA,3@SEA

89-66 LAA: 4@OAK,3@TEX

 

tie  WC:  2 more wins.

win WC:  3 more wins.

win ALC: 4 more wins.

win ALHF: 5 more wins.

Also subtract any games the Red Sox and Yankees lose before they play each other...

 

NY (4 with Bal)

BOS (4 with Tor)

 

So - hope Baltimore and Toronto manage to win just one game of each 4 game series..then 2 wins would secure wild card..

94-61 CWS: 4@DET, 3@CLE 

92-64 CLE:  3vTBD,3vCWS     

91-64 BOS: 4vTBJ,3vNYY

91-64 NYY:  4@BAL,3@BOS

85-70 OAK: 4vLAA,3@SEA

89-66 LAA: 4@OAK,3@TEX

 

tie  WC:  2 more wins.

win WC:  3 more wins.

win ALC: 4 more wins.

win ALHF: 5 more wins.

 

If we win 4 straight games against the Tigers but lose 3 consecutive games to the Indians while the Indians win all of its 6 remaining games, the White Sox and the Indians will have the same record.

 

If this situation unfortunately occurs, do we win the division by a tiebreaker rule, or do we have to play a one-game playoff series with the Indians to determine the winner of ALC?

If we win 4 straight games against the Tigers but lose 3 consecutive games to the Indians while the Indians win all of its 6 remaining games, the White Sox and the Indians will have the same record. 

 

If this situation unfortunately occurs, do we win the division by a tiebreaker rule, or do we have to play a one-game playoff series with the Indians to determine the winner of ALC?

 

I read on one site that head to head is the tie breaker when both teams would get in. A game is played only if it means one team would go home.

I read on one site that head to head is the tie breaker when both teams would get in. A game is played only if it means one team would go home.

 

That is what I read as well. BOTH need to be guaranteed a spot in the playoffs in order to throw out the tiebreaker.

You are correct. If we sweep the Tiggers & the Indians win out we would win the division on the basis of H2H.

 

For the Indians to earn the right to a 1 gm playoff as a tie-breaker a non ALC team would need to win the WC with a better record than the ALC teams.

For those who didn't know:

 

TBD pre-AS break: 28-61

TBD pos-AS break: 37-30

TBD @CLE (Aug 12-14) : 3W-0L following a sweep at the hands of the O's

Aug 12: Hendrickson W, Westbrook L, Baez S

Aug 13: McClung W, Elarton L

Aug 14: Borowski W, Wickman L, Baez S

 

Tampa seems better suited to play at the Jake.