November 23, 200520 yr I love it. We improved our offense without losing any of our pitching. That was our only concern this offseason.
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:25 PM) AJP has seen this before when he was in a Twins uniform. Also, the guys in the clubhouse know that Jim Thome is a wrecking ball in the batters box, they know what this means to this offense. The offseason has just begun, my interest is now piqued. Well put. I know it's difficult to avoid, but constructing a perennial winner necessitates that a GM not "fall in love" with any one player. Decisions to keep players based on emotional factors usually turn out badly for the entire team. Decisions need to be made based upon needs. To that end, this is an excellent trade. The Sox get a big, strong power hitting left-handed bat in the middle of the order in exchange for a position player whose numbers can be replaced to an extent by in-house candidates for even less money. This also provides the Sox with the flexibility, if they choose, to trade for a speedster to play center and bat second in the line-up, allowing Tadahito to move down in the order and hit for more power. Assuming we sign Paulie, Thome also creates some flexibility for the line-up in that he can play first on occasion and allow Paulie to DH and get some rest. I like Aaron too, but this is a very good trade for the Sox. Edited November 23, 200520 yr by infohawk
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:43 PM) Not if his '06 is anything like his '04. If that is the case his value will be 100X what it is right now IMO. There was a perfect storm of teams seeking CFers this year. Yankees, Boston, SD, Cubs, Phillies, etc... I don't think you'll see teams with the assets of those all in the market for a CFer in the same year for a while.
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:44 PM) I'm conflicted over this. It definately improves the lineup. But losing ARow is a tough blow to take. If the cash considerations from Philly mean we can resign PK, then I guess this is the right thing to do. We hang on to Konerko next season and we're going to win at least 100 games.
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:45 PM) Let's remember, Jon was traded to Anaheim. Tain't official yet. That's what I'm hoping for. Hopefully Thome is the next Erstad.
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:45 PM) Rumor is that it's Rowand and 2 prospects? 1 spect + cash
November 23, 200520 yr If anyone is upset Rowand got traded, they should have seen this coming about 2 weeks ago when he was mentioned in nearly every trade scenario.
November 23, 200520 yr The Chicago White Sox have acquired Jim Thome. Thome. This guy potentially can put up downright silly numbers playing the majority of his games in US Cellular Field. This is unreal.
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:40 PM) What are Thome's stats at the Cell?? http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4762/s...er&type=Batting G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG vs. CWS 122 420 87 124 22 2 41 107 80 125 3 1 .295 @Cell 58 210 43 60 8 2 18 50 34 69 1 1 .286 Edited November 23, 200520 yr by Athomeboy_2000
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 08:46 PM) The Chicago White Sox have acquired Jim Thome. Thome. This guy potentially can put up downright silly numbers playing the majority of his games in US Cellular Field. This is unreal. Quickest MS paint skills in the West!
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) If anyone is upset Rowand got traded, they should have seen this coming about 2 weeks ago when he was mentioned in nearly every trade scenario. It's not about not seeing it comming, it's about it finally happening.
November 23, 200520 yr Very interesting....Guess Philly really wanted out of that Thome deal....If Jim is healthy and Paulie resigns, the Sox have a great 1-2 punch in the middle of the order then Will miss A-Row so let's hope Brian Anderson can provide some stellar D!
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4762/s...er&type=Batting G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG vs. CWS 122 420 87 124 22 2 41 107 80 125 3 1 .295 .406 .650 1.056 Yeah, but he doesn't get to face Jim Parque anymore
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4762/s...er&type=Batting G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG vs. CWS 122 420 87 124 22 2 41 107 80 125 3 1 .295 .406 .650 1.056 Good numbers as long as we keep in mind the pitching we had. Those numbers seem pretty clutch to me. Edited November 23, 200520 yr by Greg The Bull Luzinski
November 23, 200520 yr I'm going to say this right now... I have a little brother who is 8 yrs. old. He does not know much about baseball but he does know who Aaron Rowand is. Aaron Rowand is his favorite baseball player. He has his baseball glove signed by Aaron Rowand! He will not be a happy man when he comes home from school. I'm gonna have to hate to tell him the news...
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) Yeah, but he doesn't get to face Jim Parque anymore or Jamie Navarro
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4762/s...er&type=Batting G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG vs. CWS 122 420 87 124 22 2 41 107 80 125 3 1 .295 thats against the sox total, not just at the cell Edited November 23, 200520 yr by toasty
November 23, 200520 yr Does this hurt the team...no...only in maybe chemistry and how it will effect Crede and AJ who formed the 3 Stooges...that is my only real concern. ARow had the most value in terms of a trade without disrupting the Sox lineup. Face it...he really wasn't a huge threat for that much of the year at the plate. Damn...I'll miss him though.
November 23, 200520 yr Good deal I think this is fair for both sides. I am going to miss Rowand and he is going to be a great player. I do not believe anyone can judge this trade or any trade this early. Look at the Lee deal and now tell me how it turned out. For all of you that are complaining of the trade please give it time and I for one appreciate everything Rowand has done for the organization and the city of Chicago. I trust KW and he is doing what is best for the team. He has a player that can flat out hit and I would believe that Thome has a chip on his shoulder. He was pushed out of Philli for Howard and with all the injury talk he has a lot to prove. I will be buying my Thome jersey soon. As I posted in another topic I believe Pierre is next.
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(toasty @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:50 PM) thats against the sox total, not just at the cell SOrry, i posted the wrong line. I added at the Cell.
November 23, 200520 yr As I posted in another topic I believe Pierre is next. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Me too, hey Rock, I got one hunch right wouldn't you say?
November 23, 200520 yr Thome has been givin it to the Sox Kobe to Katelyn style, home or away, for as long as I've been a Sox fan. I have no doubts he'll put up great numbers if healthy.
November 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(Soxman72 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) As I posted in another topic I believe Pierre is next. This signals big changes. Those who complained that the offense was weak last year should not be b****ing right now. With Pierre and Thome over Rowand and Everett, we will improve.
November 23, 200520 yr Ok, someone tell me who plays where between Konerko (if he reups) and Thome? I'm happy, but sad, b/c Rowand was a hell of a CF. Good luck to him.
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