November 30, 200520 yr If the Sox get Myers. I can see a 3-way deal happen between the Marlins, Rangers and Us. We get Pierre Rangers get Marte Marlins get 2 or 3 prospects (including Sweeney)
November 30, 200520 yr Why do people even want Pierre.... We are going to have a total of 3 HR's from our 1-2 hitters.....
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:00 AM) Why do people even want Pierre.... We are going to have a total of 3 HR's from our 1-2 hitters..... ...until the playoffs. Then the green beast emerges! KW knew it all along.
November 30, 200520 yr I can see it now. Your 2006 defending world champion Chicago WHite Sox: Stating Lineup: 1. Pods LF 2. Pierre CF 3. Dye RF 4. Konerko 1B 5. Thome DH 6. Iguchi 2B 7. Pierzynski C 8. Crede 3B 9. Uribe SS Rotation: 1. Buerhle 2. Contreras 3. Garland 4. Garcia 5. McCarthy Bullpen: Jenks CL Hermy Set up/ CL Pollite R Set up Cotts L Set up Myers L Middle El-duque R middle/ spot starter Vizcaino R long relief 2006 Version of GROUP 4: Harris INF Anderson OF Widger C Perez OF Ozuna INF Lets win it again!!
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:00 AM) Why do people even want Pierre.... We are going to have a total of 3 HR's from our 1-2 hitters..... Maybe so. However, we will have a combined 150 SBs from the 2. Its all about run production for Dye, PK and Thome! And if Pierre doesn't work out in the 2 hole- put the Iguchi back there.
November 30, 200520 yr id be fine with 3 home runs from the 1 - 2 combo if it meant that they would get on base 40% of the time and steal a combined 150 bags... expecially with the RBI machine we're hoping to have in konerko/thome/dye..... that would f***ing rule and if it meant marte and sweeney..... id do it.... even thou sweeney is going to be something special, that kid sure can play and has a beautiful swing that rivals ken griffy jr. edit: funny scott, we came up with the same numbers pretty much at the same time lmao Edited November 30, 200520 yr by hi8is
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 08:06 PM) I can see it now. Your 2006 defending world champion Chicago WHite Sox: Stating Lineup: 1. Pods LF 2. Pierre CF 3. Dye RF 4. Konerko 1B 5. Thome DH 6. Iguchi 2B 7. Pierzynski C 8. Crede 3B 9. Uribe SS Rotation: 1. Buerhle 2. Contreras 3. Garland 4. Garcia 5. McCarthy Bullpen: Jenks CL Hermy Set up/ CL Pollite R Set up Cotts L Set up Myers L Middle El-duque R middle/ spot starter Vizcaino R long relief 2006 Version of GROUP 4: Harris INF Anderson OF Widger C Perez OF Ozuna INF Lets win it again!! You've got one player too many on that roster. Omit Timo and it's good.
November 30, 200520 yr I still don't want Pierre. I don't like the idea of trading to get an outfielder when we have plenty of outfielders coming up, I want Anderson's defense out there, and I think it's time to develop Anderson in CF too.
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 07:00 PM) Why do people even want Pierre.... We are going to have a total of 3 HR's from our 1-2 hitters..... Sure hurt the marlins in 03... Edited November 30, 200520 yr by Rowand44
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(hi8is @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:08 AM) id be fine with 3 home runs from the 1 - 2 combo if it meant that they would get on base 40% of the time... That'd be dynamite, if they were capable of it. Neither one has ever had an obp above .380, and Pierre's was .326 last year. Barf. Then on top of it, you want them to average 75 steals between them, when neither's touched 75 steals. If you want to see a really crappy season, don't look at 2005 Marte, look at 2005 Pierre. Pierre's would be a weak hitting, bad fielding, waste of $3 mil. Or $4 mil, $5 mil, whatever he's getting paid.
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 05:15 PM) If you want to see a really crappy season, don't look at 2005 Marte, look at 2005 Pierre. Pierre's would be a weak hitting, bad fielding, waste of $3 mil. Or $4 mil, $5 mil, whatever he's getting paid. 2005 Salary: $3,700,000
November 30, 200520 yr Author That'd be dynamite, if they were capable of it. Neither one has ever had an obp above .380, and Pierre's was .326 last year. Barf. Then on top of it, you want them to average 75 steals between them, when neither's touched 75 steals. If you want to see a really crappy season, don't look at 2005 Marte, look at 2005 Pierre. Pierre's would be a weak hitting, bad fielding, waste of $3 mil. Or $4 mil, $5 mil, whatever he's getting paid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> One bad season doesn't make a player suck. Go check out Konerko's 2003 numbers.
November 30, 200520 yr If the Sox get Myers. I can see a 3-way deal happen between the Marlins, Rangers and Us. We get Pierre Rangers get Marte Marlins get 2 or 3 prospects (including Sweeney) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No chance whatsoever. The White Sox are even higher on Sweeney than I am.
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 05:19 PM) One bad season doesn't make a player suck. Go check out Konerko's 2003 numbers. Agreed...but that still doesnt' mean Pierre's going to suddenly slap up a .400 OBP next year. (His career # is .355)
November 30, 200520 yr Author Agreed...but that still doesnt' mean Pierre's going to suddenly slap up a .400 OBP next year. (His career # is .355) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I never said it did but what would be wrong with a .355 OBP and great speed from the two-hole?
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 07:25 PM) I never said it did but what would be wrong with a .355 OBP and great speed from the two-hole? Nothing is wrong with it, it would be something very nice to have.
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:19 AM) One bad season doesn't make a player suck. Go check out Konerko's 2003 numbers. Pierre was spectacular before that? He got on base okay for a couple years, but nothing eye-popping, he's almost always had next to nothing in terms of pop, and his defense has long been considered just adequate. He steals bases -- I guess. Even there, at his best he's around 75%, so it's not that big of a help. We powered our way through the playoffs. Who still thinks that sb are more important than obp AND slg AND hr?
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 09:29 PM) Pierre was spectacular before that? He got on base okay for a couple years, but nothing eye-popping, he's almost always had next to nothing in terms of pop, and his defense has long been considered just adequate. He steals bases -- I guess. Even there, at his best he's around 75%, so it's not that big of a help. We powered our way through the playoffs. Who still thinks that sb are more important than obp AND slg AND hr? You just described Scott Podsednik....look what he did.
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 05:33 PM) You just described Scott Podsednik....look what he did. So you're telling me Juan Pierre will hit a walk off dinger in game 2 of the W.S. against the Mets or the Cardinals closers next year?
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:33 AM) You just described Scott Podsednik....look what he did. And I appreciate it. Just as I appreciate what Aaron Rowand did. But just like I can think the Sox made a good move in the Thome trade, I can think that the Sox DON'T need yet another Podsednik.
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:35 AM) So you're telling me Juan Pierre will hit a walk off dinger in game 2 of the W.S. against the Mets or the Cardinals closers next year? Hey, I will give that caveat. If KW can guarantee that Pierre does that, hell, get him here no matter what the cost.
November 30, 200520 yr QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 07:33 PM) You just described Scott Podsednik....look what he did. Why do we need another leadoff hitter?
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