True but they were 3 year deals. Those aren't what I would consider the long term deals. Guaranteed 4-5 year deals are where I think KW will draw the line. JG will get that from someone else. Not here.

 

How much better would they have looked if they had the last years money for two more years? Buehrle through say 2009 at $10 million a year would be a HUGE steal, same for Garcia at $8 million. Heck the first few years Contreras deal was horrible, now he would be looking at $10 million a year for the finish he had.

Garland straightup for overpaid Vasquez is bad enough, but there is no way in HELL that the Sox should include Young with Garland in the deal.

How much better would they have looked if they had the last years money for two more years?  Buehrle through say 2009 at $10 million a year would be a HUGE steal, same for Garcia at $8 million.  Heck the first few years Contreras deal was horrible, now he would be looking at $10 million a year for the finish he had.

 

There are plenty of examples of the albatross contracts also.

There are plenty of examples of the albatross contracts also.

The point being, you can't just assume it will be a bad deal, simply because of how long it is.

I read the article several times and it isn't really clear that Chris Young would be involved in a "package" deal with Garland. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it sounds like Rosenthal just heard that Young for Vasquez would be another possibility.

 

Either way, I doubt Young will be going anywhere.

Chris Young isn't some kind of superstar, you know.

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Chris Young isn't some kind of superstar, you know.

 

Well, if that's the case, then no one was a superstar when they were in the minors. Young's potential is leaps and bounds higher than any other Sox prospect right now.

Holy crap, I just logged on to see Vazquez could come to the sox. I am not going to read through 22 pages, but does any know if he will wave his no trade clause?

Holy crap, I just logged on to see Vazquez could come to the sox. I am not going to read through 22 pages, but does any know if he will wave his no trade clause?

 

18 holes of golf last week make it likely.

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Awww he learned how to use cut and paste... isn't it cute.

Anyone want to update me on whats happaning so I don't have to read 22 pages? All I read was the first post...

You know, if I'm Kenny, I'd say:

 

"Here's the deal. Garland for Vazquez straight up. If you want us to take on the whole salary, give us a top-line prospect like Carlos Quentin or Conor Jackson. If not, we'll go to Spring Training with what we have and take our chances next off-season."

 

There are also some marquee free agent pitchers after 2006.

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Awww he learned how to use cut and paste... isn't it cute.

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That just made my day..

Anyone want to update me on whats happaning so I don't have to read 22 pages? All I read was the first post...

 

RECAP

 

The Sox have supposedly been in talks with Arizona about a possible deal for Javier Vasquez.

 

Could be for either Garland or Contreras...the consensus appears to be Garland.

 

Ozzie golfed with Vasquez, so we know they both like golf.

 

Some people like it. Some people don't. Should stick with Garland...since he's gonna leave at the end of the season we should do the trade...we should trade him, but not for Vasquez...yada yada yada.

 

Rosenthal says Chris Young might be involved.

 

hi8is doesn't like rumors.

Edited December 13, 200520 yr by KevHead0881

There are also some marquee free agent pitchers after 2006.

 

Out of curiosity, who?

RECAP

 

hi8is doesn't like rumors.

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How in the hell did you figure that out.. I swear you have to be one of the smartest posters on here.

Is there a way to make this a poll? That would solve alot of recaps.

How in the hell did you figure that out.. I swear you have to be one of the smartest posters on here. 

 

I got a little confused at first. Was it that he didn't like the hit Fleetwood Mac album? Then I figured that theory wouldn't make any sense.

RECAP

 

The Sox have supposedly been in talks with Arizona about a possible deal for Javier Vasquez.

 

Could be for either Garland or Contreras...the consensus appears to be Garland.

 

Ozzie golfed with Vasquez, so we know they both like golf.

 

Some people like it.  Some people don't.  Should stick with Garland...since he's gonna leave at the end of the season we should do the trade...we should trade him, but not for Vasquez...yada yada yada.

 

Rosenthal says Chris Young might be involved.

 

hi8is doesn't like rumors.

Thank you.

 

 

 

But :puke

Thank you.

But  :puke

sorry all, i started this thread in palehose talk without looking here first

Well I hope KW doesn't give up Young for Vazquez. KW is in the driver seat both because Garland had a better year last year and because Vazquez is demanding to be traded.

Out of curiosity, who?

 

 

Sorry, meant to add a link.

 

 

Possible 2006 Free Agents

Edited December 13, 200520 yr by CanOfCorn

Awww he learned how to use cut and paste... isn't it cute.

hysterical.

I still don't understand why Contreras would be eligible for free agency after next season. He has not had 6 years in the majors.