RME JICO Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Just curious to see what everyone thinks about Gload's and Borchard's chances of making the team if the Sox only go with 11 pitchers. It seems like most people think they are locks. I know numbers aren't everything, but it is hard not to notice how good Sweeney and Fields have been batting. Here are their numbers with Owens thrown in: AB R H BI AVG OBP SLG OPS R Sweeney rf 11 4 6 2 .545 .583 1.090 1.673, 2 HR, BB J Fields 3b 8 2 4 3 .500 .500 1.500 2.000, 2 2B, 2 HR R Gload 1b 9 2 3 0 .333 .455 .444 .899, 2B, 2 BB, SB J Borchard rf 13 2 2 0 .154 .214 .154 .368, BB J Owens lf 11 3 1 0 .091 .231 .273 .504, 3B, 2 BB, SB Would it be better to have Sweeney, Fields, and Owens start in Charlotte to give them more ABs instead of having them on the bench in the bigs? or Do you bring one of two of these guys up if they continue to tear it up in Spring Training? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) I think Gload is a lock to make the team, Borchard I'm not too sure about. I do think Borchard is more MLB ready than Owens, Sweeney or Fields but I don't think Ozzie likes his "all or nothing" approach to hitting. Edited March 8, 2006 by mr_genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Sweeney needs more time in the minors without a shadow of a doubt. In fact he may not even be ready for 2007. Needs to actually prove he can hit for some power. Fields needs to improve on his plate discipline and to continue to improve his fielding at Charlotte. He'll probably be ready for 2007, but will there be a spot for him? Owens is the wildcard of course. I think it's definitely more beneficial for him to get regular AB's for Charlotte instead of him sitting on the pine in the majors. Remember he's only been in the minors for 2 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I think Borchard and Gload are total locks if the Sox decide to go with 11 pitchers. It's nice to see that Owens, Fields and Sweeney are all having good springs so far. But no way any of them makes the team now. It would be a lot better for them to play everyday in the minors and prove that they can do what they're currently doing consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I don't think Sweeney or Fields have a shot at making the roster opening day. Neither is fully developed, and Sweeney still needs to work on his power, while Fields needs to improve his plate discipline. As for Owens, I always thought that he would have to have an amazing ST while Anderson completely sucked, and it doesn't look like thats happening. I wouldn't say Gload and Borchard are locks, but I think they are pretty damn close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 04:09 AM) It's nice to see that Owens, Fields and Sweeney are all having good springs so far. AB R H BI AVG OBP SLG OPS J Owens lf 11 3 1 0 .091 .231 .273 .504, 3B, 2 BB, SB Edited March 8, 2006 by Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I think everyone is seeing that Owens is not the huge superstar that was portrayed in the offseason. He is still very raw, and needs to learn to adjust to pitchers in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Gload is never a lock on this team it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 09:28 AM) I think everyone is seeing that Owens is not the huge superstar that was portrayed in the offseason. He is still very raw, and needs to learn to adjust to pitchers in AAA. I certainly didn't think that this offseason, but for the people who did, what has Owens done that would change their minds? 11 ST Abs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Borchard and Gload are out of options, and bringing up one of Sweeney, Fields, or Owens is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 The arbitration clocks on all three of Sweeney, Fields, and Owens still have yet to start. There is simply no good reason to rush those guys to the big leagues. At least give them a few months in AAA. For their own sake as much as the team's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 10:38 AM) Gload is never a lock on this team it seems. Nor should he be. He's pretty bad. EDIT: Oops. I misread it. Thought you were talking about Borchard. Gload should be a lock. Edited March 8, 2006 by KevHead0881 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 10:08 AM) Nor should he be. He's pretty bad. EDIT: Oops. I misread it. Thought you were talking about Borchard. Gload should be a lock. Why should Gload be a lock? The guy had no position on defense. He plays 1B, we already have 2 guys who can play that position. We need a backup OF'er who can play defense. The only option is Borchard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Both Gload and Borchard are out of minor-league options, so you can pretty much bank on at least one of them on the major-league roster. That said, I'm really not thrilled with carrying one, let alone both, of them if neither has shown they can consistently get it done in spring training. An interesting name to throw around for s*** and giggles would be Richard Hidalgo. I know he's up there in age, his play is on a steady decline, and he just left the O's because he was promised only a bench spot, but, if he can be had at the right price, and he'd be willing to sit on the bench for the defending world champions before trying his hand in Japan, he'd be an ideal fourth outfielder. His defensive play leaves a lot to be desired, but, at least we know he can hit major league pitching and could spell either Podsednik or Dye without looking completely lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 11:27 AM) Why should Gload be a lock? The guy had no position on defense. He plays 1B, we already have 2 guys who can play that position. We need a backup OF'er who can play defense. The only option is Borchard. Well, first of all, Gload can play a little outfield. Not very well, but Borchard is nothing special out there either. And at the very least, Gload has a resemblence of a major league hitter, something I can't say for Borchard. The only way a guy like Borchard will have any success offensively is if he's playing almost everyday. And since we're talking about the 5th outfielder spot, Borchard's probably won't see a ton of action. Believe me, I'm not the biggest Gload fan around here. But as a pinch hitter and an occasional corner outfielder, he'll be serviceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 11:26 AM) Well, first of all, Gload can play a little outfield. Not very well, but Borchard is nothing special out there either. I couldnt disagree with you more. Gload plays no OF, not on this team. As far as pinch hitters go, before I would send up either one of these guys, I would send up Mack, Cintron and Ozuna. So if their role is mainly an OF fill in, you have to choose the player who can actually play the OF, that is joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 gload has no value to this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 01:04 PM) I couldnt disagree with you more. Gload plays no OF, not on this team. As far as pinch hitters go, before I would send up either one of these guys, I would send up Mack, Cintron and Ozuna. So if their role is mainly an OF fill in, you have to choose the player who can actually play the OF, that is joe. Like I said, I don't think much of Gload. I just think that little of Borchard. I guess saying that Gload should be a lock was too strong. Ultimately, if we are just looking for somebody to fill the defensive need in the OF, I'd prefer we find somebody else all together. Either way, we got a strong bench regardless, especially with Cintron aboard. I ain't gonna make a big stink over the 5th OF spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Looks like Gload is gone. He has to be with the trade of Cintron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 02:23 PM) Looks like Gload is gone. He has to be with the trade of Cintron. Good for Gload, let him have a shot at playing elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 01:26 PM) Good for Gload, let him have a shot at playing elsewhere. I agree. He can have some real value on another team. The Sox are just too loaded right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 12:38 PM) Like I said, I don't think much of Gload. I just think that little of Borchard. I guess saying that Gload should be a lock was too strong. Ultimately, if we are just looking for somebody to fill the defensive need in the OF, I'd prefer we find somebody else all together. Either way, we got a strong bench regardless, especially with Cintron aboard. I ain't gonna make a big stink over the 5th OF spot. Fair enough. These guys are the last off the bench regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 12:38 PM) Like I said, I don't think much of Gload. I just think that little of Borchard. I guess saying that Gload should be a lock was too strong. Ultimately, if we are just looking for somebody to fill the defensive need in the OF, I'd prefer we find somebody else all together. Either way, we got a strong bench regardless, especially with Cintron aboard. I ain't gonna make a big stink over the 5th OF spot. I think Borchard's versatility and defense will win out over Gload. Borchard is a solid, if not great, outfielder. Gload is a butcher in the OF and we have Konerko, Thome and Mackowiak that can play 1B. Gload's a good hitter, but I believe Ozzie will value Borchard's defense and versatility more than Gload's bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I think Borchard's versatility and defense will win out over Gload. Borchard is a solid, if not great, outfielder. Gload is a butcher in the OF and we have Konerko, Thome and Mackowiak that can play 1B. Gload's a good hitter, but I believe Ozzie will value Borchard's defense and versatility more than Gload's bat. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 06:04 PM) I couldnt disagree with you more. Gload plays no OF, not on this team. As far as pinch hitters go, before I would send up either one of these guys, I would send up Mack, Cintron and Ozuna. So if their role is mainly an OF fill in, you have to choose the player who can actually play the OF, that is joe. You'd send up Ozuna to the plate before Gload? :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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