June 12, 200619 yr QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 11:31 AM) The man recently failed a drug test. He's failed as many drug tests as Lance Armstrong, which is to say the only evidence of any failed drug tests have come from disreputable newspapers who have stand to gain circulation by printing erroneous allegations. Until the governing body that oversees these drug tests comes out and says they've failed, I don't believe any of it.
June 12, 200619 yr Freddie Garcia has not been difficult in the Sox clubhouse that I have heard anyway, and probably wouldn't be with Ozzie as the manager. I don't read things from Garcia interviews where he refuses to take responsibility for pitching a bad game. The problem in my opinion is he pitches too many poor games, but them so does Garland and Vazquez. Too much nibbling and not enough challenging the hitters and putting them away quick. The only question I would have for Pablo Ozuna is HOW FAST IS YOUR HEATER, DUDE?! Freddie Garcia has not been difficult in the Sox clubhouse that I have heard anyway, and probably wouldn't be with Ozzie as the manager. I don't read things from Garcia interviews where he refuses to take responsibility for pitching a bad game. The problem in my opinion is he pitches too many poor games, but them so does Garland and Vazquez. Too much nibbling and not enough challenging the hitters and putting them away quick. The only question I would have for Pablo Ozuna is HOW FAST IS YOUR HEATER, DUDE?!
June 12, 200619 yr QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 02:45 PM) He's failed as many drug tests as Lance Armstrong I could see Lance wearing black. Give Coop a few sessions with him, work on his cutter. I like it.
June 12, 200619 yr QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 03:10 PM) Why hasn't this thread been closed yet? To see how many pages it hits.
June 12, 200619 yr QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 10:10 PM) Why hasn't this thread been closed yet? to see which people still have the wit to detect a joke without green
June 12, 200619 yr I'll latch onto this thread to voice my opinion concerning Garcia's pitching. Watching yesterday's pitiful performance against Cleveland, I've already soured on him this year. I don't care if his velocity miraculously returns, or whether he finishes the season strong, I would love nothing more than for him to be traded this offseason. Is anyone else sickened at the notion of observing both him and Garland in our rotation through 06'? Since it's unlikely any sensible organization accepts Garland's ridiculous contract, we're left dealing Garcia. His contributions to our World Championship team will never be forgotten, obviously. But we can't hold what occured in previous seasons as reassurances that Garcia may return to form.. Now, it's time to move forward. After this year it's time to ignore relationships amongst management and do what's right for our future. Edited June 12, 200619 yr by Flash Tizzle
June 12, 200619 yr QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 05:10 PM) Why hasn't this thread been closed yet? Because people are having fun with it. It's a nice change of scenery from the threads we're used to recently.
June 13, 200619 yr so people couldn't catch, that with that other thread on pablo...that the point here is that pablo would be as useful to us as a pitcher as he would in CF...
June 13, 200619 yr Which, interestingly, is roughly as useful as Garcia and Garland are on the mound now.
June 13, 200619 yr QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 12:21 AM) Which, interestingly, is roughly as useful as Garcia and Garland are on the mound now. no kidding... at least garland has a useful nickname...
June 13, 200619 yr Author QUOTE(bmags @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 07:18 PM) so people couldn't catch, that with that other thread on pablo...that the point here is that pablo would be as useful to us as a pitcher as he would in CF... "I'm proud of you!" Edited June 13, 200619 yr by Damen
June 13, 200619 yr QUOTE(Damen @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 02:26 AM) Seeing Garcia throw nothing but garbage yet again, I was wondering, why don't we put Ozuna in his spot in the rotation. He's fast and always tries hard. It would probably help our team chemistry and give us more heart in the rotation, which is why haven't been winning as much. What do you guys think? I think I just entered the twilight zone.
June 13, 200619 yr QUOTE(bmags @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 05:49 PM) to see which people still have the wit to detect a joke without green He doesn't post enough, atleast for me to know, when he's kidding without the green. Edited June 13, 200619 yr by Jordan4life_2006
June 13, 200619 yr QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 06:12 PM) I could see Lance wearing black. Give Coop a few sessions with him, work on his cutter. I like it. Use him as a pinch runner. Can he use his bike?
June 13, 200619 yr Author QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 10:38 PM) He doesn't post enough, atleast for me to know, when he's kidding without the green. I thought I laid it on thick enough that green would be overkill. Guess not.
June 13, 200619 yr QUOTE(Damen @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 11:08 PM) I thought I laid it on thick enough that green would be overkill. Guess not. You never know around here. I'm glad you were kidding, though.
June 13, 200619 yr "I call him G.O.A.T, because he's the Greatest of All-Time," Brian Anderson on Pablo Ozuna.
June 13, 200619 yr QUOTE(henry wiggins @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 04:31 PM) I think you're right! I wonder how Freddy's going to take the news that he has to play every day -- or do you think that Ozzie will let him start at first base only every 5th day, consistent with the rotation Freddy's used to? And once at first base, will Freddy be able to go into the 7th inning or later? Because I don't think he knows what the 8th and 9th innings look like this year, from the field. I'm just saying. I think the real question here is if Freddy will be awake for the first inning. Most of the time, he's pretty sleepy in the early going. You can get away with that as a pitcher, but not at first. So I propose that AJ cover first on all grounders hit during the first innning, except the ones hit to Iguchi, who should just run over from his position and take those unassisted. This approach will have an initially unseen benefit: Tadahito will lead the league in putouts, becoming the first Japanese second baseman to ever do so. Bud Selig will make a special presentation on Opening Day next year, honoring number 15 for a great accomplishment. I really believe in this plan.
June 13, 200619 yr QUOTE(Friend of Nordhagen @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 11:36 PM) I think the real question here is if Freddy will be awake for the first inning. Most of the time, he's pretty sleepy in the early going. You can get away with that as a pitcher, but not at first. So I propose that AJ cover first on all grounders hit during the first innning, except the ones hit to Iguchi, who should just run over from his position and take those unassisted. This approach will have an initially unseen benefit: Tadahito will lead the league in putouts, becoming the first Japanese second baseman to ever do so. Bud Selig will make a special presentation on Opening Day next year, honoring number 15 for a great accomplishment. I really believe in this plan. Yeah, I read somewhere that Garcia comes in and naps in the clubhouse prior to his starts on days when he pitches. If you're going to have AJ field a lot of Freddy's plays, in addition to calling the game and playing his own position, then I think you have to propose a percentage of Freddy's salary be given to AJ. And maybe some to Iguchi too. If that's done, I think this is a plan worthy of consideration by the great minds on the Sox. And I hope that when they adopt it, they give you the credit for coming up with it.
June 13, 200619 yr QUOTE(henry wiggins @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 10:52 AM) Yeah, I read somewhere that Garcia comes in and naps in the clubhouse prior to his starts on days when he pitches. If you're going to have AJ field a lot of Freddy's plays, in addition to calling the game and playing his own position, then I think you have to propose a percentage of Freddy's salary be given to AJ. And maybe some to Iguchi too. If that's done, I think this is a plan worthy of consideration by the great minds on the Sox. And I hope that when they adopt it, they give you the credit for coming up with it. Oh Wiggins, that's kind, but I see it as a real team approach, just like AJ and Tadahito splitting Freddy's plays at first. Perhaps Freddy can give part of his pre-game nap to those two, as well.
June 13, 200619 yr QUOTE(Friend of Nordhagen @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 04:36 AM) I think the real question here is if Freddy will be awake for the first inning. Most of the time, he's pretty sleepy in the early going. You can get away with that as a pitcher, but not at first. So I propose that AJ cover first on all grounders hit during the first innning, except the ones hit to Iguchi, who should just run over from his position and take those unassisted. This approach will have an initially unseen benefit: Tadahito will lead the league in putouts, becoming the first Japanese second baseman to ever do so. Bud Selig will make a special presentation on Opening Day next year, honoring number 15 for a great accomplishment. I really believe in this plan. why aren't we managers yet?
June 14, 200619 yr QUOTE(bmags @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 06:20 PM) why aren't we managers yet? Speak for yourself, bmags. I'm currently managing the Cubs AA team at West Tenn.
June 14, 200619 yr QUOTE(Friend of Nordhagen @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 12:16 AM) Speak for yourself, bmags. I'm currently managing the Cubs AA team at West Tenn. I know it well! The West Tennessee Fightin' Nordhagens!
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