June 23, 200619 yr You think right now Bobby Jenks is the best closer in Baseball? he's been really nasty this year. 39k/9bb. I've never seen Papplebom pitch so im not sure about him and I think Rivera has slowed down a little, but not much.
June 23, 200619 yr Pabelbon has been the best closer in baseball so far this year. BJ Ryan also has been better then Bobby but lately, Bobby has been as dominate as anyone. He's getting ahead of everyone, his velocity has fully returned and he's getting his curve over and because of that he's nearly unhittable right now.
June 23, 200619 yr Its hard to argue that anybody has been better or as good as Papelbon, cause his stats are just plain sick. But Jenks has been simply awesome this year. Let me put it this way: I can't remember another Sox closer, with the possible exception of Thigpen in 1990, that I was more comfortable with coming into a game, no matter what the circumstance.
June 23, 200619 yr Papelbon has an era of 0.25. That is ridiculous. 1 ER allowed so far in 35.2 innings.
June 23, 200619 yr Papelbon, Rivera, Ryan, Jenks. In other words, Jenks is the best closer outside the AL East, but he'd be the 4th best one in that division....yikes.
June 23, 200619 yr I'd say he's got to perform like this a bit longer to even enter the discussion. He's been very good lately, but he still hasn't really proved it over the long haul. IMO consistency is a very important factor in closer quality, and you can't make judgements off of only one year. He had kind of a rough April, and despite good periferal numbers he had a higher ERA in May. Obviously he's been lights out in June. If he keeps pitching like he has lately for the rest of the year, obviously he has to enter the discussion. Right now I think I'd go with B.J. Ryan. He was a dominant reliever the past two years and his numbers are ridiculous this year. Papelbon has also obviously been good, but I want to see him do it for at least a season and a half before I put him #1. Before his poor start to this season, I would have said Brad Lidge without hesitation. Rivera and Nathan are also still pitching very well. Honestly, outside of those guys, there aren't a whole lot of closers that are consistently dominant. Even guys like Francisco Rodriguez and Billy Wagner struggle for decent stretches.
June 23, 200619 yr I'd take Jenks over Ryan anyday..... Wilbon was asked by TK who he would rather want papelbon or riveria.....he said Jenks
June 23, 200619 yr I agree with you guys in that Bob has to do it well for a few more years to even have his name thrown in the discussion. But when ALL of his pitches are working, I'm not sure there is closer out there with better stuff. When the full arsenal is deployed, it's just sick.
June 23, 200619 yr QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 10:41 AM) Papelbon, Rivera, Ryan, Jenks. In other words, Jenks is the best closer outside the AL East, but he'd be the 4th best one in that division....yikes. i'll take jenks over ryan and rivera any day. yea, rivera is one of the best ever and has all that postgame exp. but jenks has a ring too.
June 23, 200619 yr I think as long as Jenks is in the conversation of best closer in baseball, it's all good. Some other closer may be considered better by some, but as long as Bad Bobby gets the job done, it's nothing but someone's opinion, so who who cares. I think he has to be in the top 2-3 by now and he's getting better, IMHO.
June 23, 200619 yr Ide take Jenks over any closer.. but it would have also been Lidge if he hadnt stumbled to start the season And no, not because hes on the White Sox, but because he throws 98-100+ gas and has NASTY breaking pitches.. his stuff is awesome
June 23, 200619 yr Talking about about Best Closer's. Don't forget to Mention Turnbow from Milw. 21S, 32.1 Innings, 39K, 3.62 ERA He reminds me of Booby alot.
June 23, 200619 yr QUOTE(gsoxs1 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 12:55 PM) Talking about about Best Closer's. Don't forget to Mention Turnbow from Milw. 21S, 32.1 Innings, 39K, 3.62 ERA He reminds me of Booby alot. Booby, eh?
June 23, 200619 yr Author It seems like theres a new generation of closers going on right now. Some really good young closers.
June 23, 200619 yr QUOTE(Melissa1334 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 12:11 PM) i'll take jenks over ryan and rivera any day. yea, rivera is one of the best ever and has all that postgame exp. but jenks has a ring too. I can go with taking Jenks over Ryan, especially since he's younger and cheaper.....but not Rivera. As for Turnbow, Turnbow AND Jenks were given away on waivers by the Angels, wonder how they feel about that right about now.
June 23, 200619 yr Here's my top 10 closers in baseball 1) Papelbon 2) Rivera 3) Ryan 4) K-Rod 5) Jenks ^^ 6) Nathan 7) Street 8) Hoffman 9) Turnbow 10) Isringhausen
June 23, 200619 yr Is there any closer with better pure stuff than Jenks? Before answering, consider Jenks's known repitoire of pitches: 95-102 MPH Fastball 95-99 MPH Cutter 88-91 MPH Slider (I know he hit 96 with it last night, but unless I see that again, it's an abberation IMO) 82-88 MPH Curveball
June 23, 200619 yr 1.) Pap 2.) Ryan 3.) Nathan (10.00 K/BB) 4.) Rivera 5a.) Jenks 5b.) K-Rod 7.) Lidge 8.) Street 9.) Fuentes 10.) Otsuka 11.) Flash Gordon (he's been that good) 12.) Wagner 13.) Hoffman 14.) Ray 15.) Cordero
June 23, 200619 yr QUOTE(gsoxs1 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 02:48 PM) Its called a Typo. Deal with it. Calm down there Mr. Typo.
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