To be fair you don't know what is better to have. Weber coached Self's recruits to a national title game. Weber only made the 2nd round last year and isn't looking great talent wise this year. This year will be a telling tale for Weber because it's almost all his recruits.

Well here are the matchups for this week's ACC/Big Ten Challenge. If someone knows how to do one big poll in a separate thread that would be cool.

 

Monday

Michigan @ NC State - 6:00 ESPN2

 

Tuesday

Maryland @ Illinois - 6:00 ESPN

Florida ST @ Wisconsin - 6:30 ESPN2

Penn St. @ GA Tech - 7:00 ESPNU

Indiana @ Duke - 8:00 ESPN

Miami @ Northwestern - 8:30 ESPN2

 

Wednesday

Michigan St @ Boston College - 6:00 ESPN

Virginia @ Purdue - 6:30 ESPN2

Iowa @ Va Tech - 7:00 ESPNU

Ohio State @ North Carolina - 8:00 ESPN

Clemson @ Minnesota - 8:30 ESPN2

 

I don't see too many sure Big Ten wins in there. Thoughts??

 

I see three wins for the Big Ten (Michigan, Wisky, Purdue)

To be fair you don't know what is better to have. Weber coached Self's recruits to a national title game. Weber only made the 2nd round last year and isn't looking great talent wise this year. This year will be a telling tale for Weber because it's almost all his recruits.

People in IL are saying its a "rebuilding year." Well the only reason it is that, is because Weber cant bring in the same talent level as he inherited. I do not plan on seeing U of I in the national title picture for several more years, unless he gets lucky.

 

And it's clear on what is better to have.

Not sure who you meant.

New ESPN/USA Today rankings are out and can be seen here. I'll wait for someone else to format it properly, but Ohio State is their new number one, followed by UCLA, Pitt, Florida, and Kansas. Marquette cracks the top ten at number nine, while Wisconsin falls to 13. Butler's in at #18, and Wichita State is there at 22. U of I is right on the Top 25 cusp (they'll certainly be in with a W over Maryland), receiving the most votes for a non-Top 25 team, and I'm surprised that the Salukis aren't being respected yet, only getting a couple of votes.

I was looking forward to these...

 

Week 4 ESPN/USA Today Poll
 

 1. Ohio State (11) 6-0 740

 2. UCLA (13) 4-0 734

 3. Pittsburgh (5) 6-0 708

 4. Florida (2) 6-1 690

 5. Kansas 5-1 572

 6. North Carolina 4-1 571

 7. Alabama 5-0 566

 8. Texas A&M 5-0 532

 9. Marquette 6-0 450

10. Duke 5-1 424

11. Washington 5-0 393

12. LSU 2-1 379

13. Wisconsin 5-1 373

14. Syracuse 6-0 325

15. Connecticut 5-0 308

16. Arizona 3-1 298

17. Memphis 3-1 263

18. Butler 7-0 232

19. Maryland 7-0 209

20. Nevada 5-0 205

21. Gonzaga 6-1 201

22. Wichita State 4-0 187

23. Georgetown 3-1 179

24. Georgia Tech 5-1 175

25. Texas 4-1 69
 

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
 

Illinois 52, San Diego State 44, Michigan State 42, Air Force 35, Oklahoma State 24, 

Michigan 24, Arkansas 20, Kentucky 13, Xavier 10, Louisville 6, Tennessee 5, 

Creighton 4, Oral Roberts 4, Oregon 3, Brigham Young 3, Southern Illinois 2, Virginia 1.
 

DROPPED FROM RANKINGS
 

Tennessee 21, Kentucky 22.
 

Week 4 AP Top 25
 

 1. UCLA (36) 4-0 1,727

 2. Pittsburgh (18) 6-0 1,666

 3. Ohio State (15) 6-0 1,649

 4. Florida (3) 6-1 1,576

 5. Kansas 5-1 1,490

 6. Alabama 5-0 1,404

 7. North Carolina 4-1 1,389

 8. Marquette 6-0 1,240

 9. Texas A&M 5-0 1,213

10. LSU 2-1 985

11. Duke 5-1 946

12. Wisconsin 5-1 807

13. Washington 5-0 731

14. Memphis 3-1 685

15. Syracuse 6-0 662

16. Arizona 3-1 652

17. Wichita State 4-0 635

18. Georgetown 3-1 628

19. Butler 7-0 572

20. Connecticut 5-0 516

21. Georgia Tech 5-1 511

22. Gonzaga 6-1 421

23. Maryland 7-0 376

24. Nevada 5-0 349

25. Virginia 4-0 91
 

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
 

Texas 89, Xavier 54, Oklahoma State 43, Michigan State 42, Missouri State 37, Kentucky 37, 

Arkansas 33, Illinois 33, San Diego State 22, Southern Illinois 21, Creighton 15, Tennessee 11, 

Air Force 8, Florida State 5, George Washington 4, Michigan 4, West Virginia 4, Bradley 3, 

Old Dominion 3, Louisville 3, Massachusetts 2, New Mexico 2, Oregon 1, Holy Cross 1, 

Villanova 1, Wake Forest 1.
 

DROPPED FROM RANKINGS
 

Kentucky 20, Tennessee 22.

Yeesh. No respect for the Dawgs. We're going to have to have to run the rest of our OOC sched to make it to the top 25 me thinks. I can't believe we got a whole 2 votes in the ESPN poll, very interesting.

 

EDIT: And where the hell is Missouri State in the ESPN poll, NO VOTES?!? They beat Wisconsin and lose to a pretty good Okie State team in OT and they get no votes? Man, the more I think the Valley proves itself, the less it seems to get respected.

Edited November 27, 200619 yr by Rowand44

Man, I love the Bucks, but a #1 ranking is a bit premature IMO.

LMAO at OSU at number one. Who exposes them first?

LMAO at OSU at number one. Who exposes them first?

UNC, 2 nights from now.

 

They are a good team, but do not deserve the #1 at this moment in time.

UCLA is my number one, but I'm surprised at the difference in the polls, notably at the bottom. Missouri State gets no votes in one poll and is almost ranked in the other. Virginia is ranked in the AP but gets one vote in the ESPN. I have to agree with the AP poll more this time around. How can LSU be so much higher than Wichita State in both polls? Wichita State won in LSU and is undefeated. I guess it's irrelevant anyway at this time of year.

OSU can really shoot 3's, which is what UNC struggles with the most defending. I fully expect OSU to go off against UNC and make it a great game at the very least.

OSU can really shoot 3's, which is what UNC struggles with the most defending. I fully expect OSU to go off against UNC and make it a great game at the very least.

With Oden, I would say OSu would win this game, without the big presence, I would say I am confident, but they may not be ready for the tarheels.

I'm still holding out hope for a Willis Reed like appearance for Oden in the game, but without the inspirational win part for OSU. I want to see all that talent battle, especially in the post.

Someone needs to avatar this.

 

Does the Big 10/ACC Challenge start tonight or tomorrow night?

Tonight.......

 

Michigan @ NC State

 

The other 10 games are Tuesday and Wednesday.

The Big Ten COULD start the Challenge 3-0 and not win another game. I think they will end up winning 4 or 5 games but I am not going to try and guess which ones.

I don't mean to call anyone out, but anyone who thought NC State actually had a chance in this game, well, yeah...

Im just hoping Wisconsin beats FSU. Atleast it will be on TV.

Petway can jump...

 

I don't mean to call anyone out, but anyone who thought NC State actually had a chance in this game, well, yeah...

And NC State takes the lead, LOL

Michigan might want to wake up for the sake of the big 10.

 

Pack up 7 at the half.

In a game the B10 needed, UM gets beat.

In a game the B10 needed, UM gets beat.

 

Amaker sucks hard

Marquette having some trouble with Valpo. MU down by four about halfway through the second half.