redandwhite Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 8, 2007 -> 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If they had talented arms in the pen, they wouldnt need to close by committee. its hard to see a rainbow in this situation, even if i am you. I disagree, 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I can't believe that the Red Sox are possibly relying on Joel Pineiro to close out games for them. For such a talented team with a huge payroll, that statement is pretty insane. Of course, to be fair, I can't believe that we're relying on either Floyd or Haeger to be the 5th starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I would rather have Papelbon throw 200 innings than around 70. One of the reasons the Red Sox don't want Papelbon as closer is they don't know how his shoulder will hold up pitching almost every day. I wouldn't want Piniero as my closer though. They should be able to do better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Papelbon should stay the closer and Javier Lopez should stay in relief instead of signing Pinero. Matsuzaka Beckett Clement Schilling Wakefield What's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 9, 2007 -> 02:43 AM) Papelbon should stay the closer and Javier Lopez should stay in relief instead of signing Pinero. Matsuzaka Beckett Clement Schilling Wakefield What's the problem? Clement does indeed suck that much. Kinda of funny looking back on that FA market and some of the names the Sox were connected to - offhand, I know there was Wright and Clement atleast, and I'm sure there were a few others as well - and the Sox ended up "settling" for Duque on a 2 year deal for $8 million. Turned out to be a pretty good deal all in all for the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Scott Schoeneweis is close to a 3 year deal with the Metropolitans. Tim Worrell retired after a 14 year career. John Thompson' signed with the Blue Jays, mainly because it seems he can't stand Paul LoDuca. Griffey shouuld be ready for Spring Training. Russ Ortiz to the Giants for a minimum, 1 year contract. Javy Lopez to the Rockies for 1 year, $750k. Jim Edmunds had surgery on his foot. Cal Ripken would be interested in buying the Orioles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Schoenweis got 10+ million over 3... god is this market ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 QUOTE(bschmaranz @ Jan 10, 2007 -> 11:30 PM) Schoenweis got 10+ million over 3... god is this market ridiculous. Boras is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Russ Ortiz could be a real good signing for the Giants. Last year was just too unexpected and too much of a drop off from his career numbers that it's hard to imagine him doing anything other than pitch pretty well. He's also pitching for his next and possibly final contract.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 03:36 PM) Russ Ortiz could be a real good signing for the Giants. Last year was just too unexpected and too much of a drop off from his career numbers that it's hard to imagine him doing anything other than pitch pretty well. He's also pitching for his next and possibly final contract.. did you miss 2005? His WHIPs the last 4 years look like this 1.31 1.51 1.84 2.00 Yeah, I'd say he's do for a bounce back, maybe to a WHIP of 1.75. It's either that or out of baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 04:19 PM) Boras is good I'd like Scott Boras to get in a soul-buying contest with Satan just to see who'd win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 12, 2007 -> 03:24 AM) I'd like Scott Boras to get in a soul-buying contest with Satan just to see who'd win. Ditka wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Carlos Zambrano submitted a $15.5M arbitration figure which is HUGE. This is the first sign I've seen from the Zambrano camp that they are serious about cashing in on Carlos' impending free agency. All the figures that had been tossed around before were pretty damn disappointing (less than Zito). If Carlos' camp gets serious about this he could end up the largest contract ever handed out to a starting pitcher (which will only last until the '08-09 offseason.) If he's going to re-sign, I want to see him clean the Cubs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 16, 2007 -> 05:03 PM) Carlos Zambrano submitted a $15.5M arbitration figure which is HUGE. This is the first sign I've seen from the Zambrano camp that they are serious about cashing in on Carlos' impending free agency. All the figures that had been tossed around before were pretty damn disappointing (less than Zito). If Carlos' camp gets serious about this he could end up the largest contract ever handed out to a starting pitcher (which will only last until the '08-09 offseason.) If he's going to re-sign, I want to see him clean the Cubs out. The crazy thing is that his number is low when compared to what he is going to be able to get in this FA market. $20 million per year is entirely possible. His peripherals are nasty, he puts up great W/L playing for a s***ty team, and he gives you 200+ innings every year. He could be looking at $150 million in FA next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Per ESPN, Braves and Pirates made a trade today Braves trade LaRoche to Bucs for Gonzalez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Mariners sign JJ Putz to a 3 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 17, 2007 -> 05:12 PM) Sosa-Gonzo-Wickman gives the Braves a really nice backend. You mean Soriano, but yes it does. Probably the only team that has two people setting up who would both be better closers than the current closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jan 17, 2007 -> 04:27 PM) You mean Soriano, but yes it does. Probably the only team that has two people setting up who would both be better closers than the current closer. Is Todd Jones still going to be closing in Detroit? With any luck, the White Sox might be able to say the same thing too, and that won't be because of Bobby's performance, but because of how good the other guys in the Pen can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2007 -> 06:41 PM) Is Todd Jones still going to be closing in Detroit? With any luck, the White Sox might be able to say the same thing too, and that won't be because of Bobby's performance, but because of how good the other guys in the Pen can be. S***, good call. Jones is so bad. I would imagine Zumaya has to be wondering when the hell Jones is getting out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jan 17, 2007 -> 05:26 PM) S***, good call. Jones is so bad. I would imagine Zumaya has to be wondering when the hell Jones is getting out of there. If I recall correctly Jones signed a 2 year deal before last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Son of a b****, there's nothing I hate more than when my sports world is brought to a screeching halt due to some f***ing exclusive rights contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 22, 2007 -> 05:43 PM) Son of a b****, there's nothing I hate more than when my sports world is brought to a screeching halt due to some f***ing exclusive rights contract. WTF, ok I'm f***in pissed now. I was going to get that package next year down at school, wtfffffffff. That's is f***in ridiculous. f*** you MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 22, 2007 -> 05:43 PM) Son of a b****, there's nothing I hate more than when my sports world is brought to a screeching halt due to some f***ing exclusive rights contract. F*cking c*cks*cking, mother f*ckers! During summer when everything is in re-runs, I could always turn on the Extra Innings package. DirectTV, burn in hell!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jan 22, 2007 -> 05:45 PM) WTF, ok I'm f***in pissed now. That's is f***in ridiculous. f*** you MLB. Agreed QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 22, 2007 -> 05:46 PM) By 09, if the MLB channel is anything like the NFL network, I might have to make the switch. Double Agree QUOTE(Brian @ Jan 22, 2007 -> 05:50 PM) F*cking c*cks*cking, mother f*ckers! During summer when everything is in re-runs, I could always turn on the Extra Innings package. DirectTV, burn in hell!! Triple Agree I think Major League Baseball hates the fans, really there's no other explanation. They take away the best baseball video game franchise and now they want to make it impossible for a good portion of their fans to subscribe to Extra Innings. I'm not getting a f***ing dish just for the baseball package, f*** that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 22, 2007 -> 05:54 PM) Agreed Double Agree Triple Agree I think Major League Baseball hates the fans, really there's no other explanation. They take away the best baseball video game franchise and now they want to make it impossible for a good portion of their fans to subscribe to Extra Innings. I'm not getting a f***ing dish just for the baseball package, f*** that. We're not even allowed to get a dish at the place I'm living in next year. I was honestly so f***in excited that I was finally going to be able to watch Sox games down here and now this . f*** you MLB, f*** you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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