March 8, 200719 yr Maybe I'm totally blind but I haven't seen Owens' name in the box score the past couple of games. I ask because Anderson continues to hit like crap and, while I'll probably get slammed for this, I truly believe Owens is the better long-term solution in CF. I realize Anderson has only had one year and now a spring, and I'm not totally ready to give up on him, but I am just not that impressed. Yes he's a great glove but he's been a total liability at the plate. Owens looks like a guy who could hit for a good average by slapping the ball around and getting a bunch of hits on his speed alone. Besides that, he could be a leadoff hitter and basestealing threat a la Podsednick in '05 - and as a bonus could mean we don't have to rely on Scotty anymore (letting Erstad keep the seat warm for Sweeney in '08). Even if we want to put Erstad in CF and Jerry in LF, I'd love to see him win the roster spot over Brian. Thoughts? (ducks)...
March 8, 200719 yr Jerry Owens is supposedly horrific in the outfield, although I did hear KW call him a CF. Sweeney would play CF before Owens. If Anderson fails to hit, I think Sweeney will be in Chicago at least until Pods comes back. Hopefully thats in 2020.
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(FlaCWS @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 07:58 PM) Maybe I'm totally blind but I haven't seen Owens' name in the box score the past couple of games. I ask because Anderson continues to hit like crap and, while I'll probably get slammed for this, I truly believe Owens is the better long-term solution in CF. I realize Anderson has only had one year and now a spring, and I'm not totally ready to give up on him, but I am just not that impressed. Yes he's a great glove but he's been a total liability at the plate. Owens looks like a guy who could hit for a good average by slapping the ball around and getting a bunch of hits on his speed alone. Besides that, he could be a leadoff hitter and basestealing threat a la Podsednick in '05 - and as a bonus could mean we don't have to rely on Scotty anymore (letting Erstad keep the seat warm for Sweeney in '08). Even if we want to put Erstad in CF and Jerry in LF, I'd love to see him win the roster spot over Brian. Thoughts? (ducks)... MLB.com said he's starting in LF tomorrow in the A game.
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 08:02 PM) I don't really think it's fair to judge a player that I really have only see take 4 or 5 AB's, but from the very little I have seen, and from all I hear, he projects alot closer to the 2006 Pods than the 2005 Pods. I have like his at bats, havent seen him field a ball yet.
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(Heads22 @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 08:26 PM) Owens is a LF. To say he's a CF is to say Willie Harris was a CF. Oh Willie ... Willie .. Willie.
March 8, 200719 yr Author Like I said at the end of the post, even if you want to put Owens in LF, I wouldn't mind seeing him win a spot over Anderson. Start the year with Erstad in CF and Pods in LF and groom Sweeney and Owens to take those spots over in '08. I'm just not an Anderson fan.
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(FlaCWS @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 07:58 PM) Maybe I'm totally blind but I haven't seen Owens' name in the box score the past couple of games. I ask because Anderson continues to hit like crap and, while I'll probably get slammed for this, I truly believe Owens is the better long-term solution in CF. I realize Anderson has only had one year and now a spring, and I'm not totally ready to give up on him, but I am just not that impressed. Yes he's a great glove but he's been a total liability at the plate. Owens looks like a guy who could hit for a good average by slapping the ball around and getting a bunch of hits on his speed alone. Besides that, he could be a leadoff hitter and basestealing threat a la Podsednick in '05 - and as a bonus could mean we don't have to rely on Scotty anymore (letting Erstad keep the seat warm for Sweeney in '08). Even if we want to put Erstad in CF and Jerry in LF, I'd love to see him win the roster spot over Brian. Thoughts? (ducks)... Nooooo. Not a guy with speed. Speed is useless. Ozzie will mismanage him. He'll only play because Ozzie loves speed!!!!! Edited March 8, 200719 yr by ptatc
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) Nooooo. Not a guy with speed. Speed is useless. Ozzie will mismanage him. He'll only play because Ozzie loves speed!!!!! If he could hit in the big leagues like he hit in AA 2 years ago, he'd be darn useful playing, but if he hit like he hit in AAA last year.... Leadoff men with excellent speed who steal bases, hit .330, and push .400 with their OBP's can be damn useful. Leadoff men who hit .262 with excellent speed with OBP's pushing .330 tend to wind up being replaced.
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 10:13 PM) Mike Caruso was fast. We should call him up. But Mike Caruso had a monster rookie season Back to Jerry Owens, he had very impressive AA numbers two years ago but he really struggled in AAA last year. He is pretty bad defensively but, IMO, he is better then Pods in the OF. He is also a LF, not a CF. I think Owens is best suited for 4th OF in the MLB. He has speed, he is a good contact hitter, and he could play all 3 spots if needed. But then again, he can be a decent leadoff hitter if he can work on his stealing and fine toon his hitting.
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 08:35 PM) But Mike Caruso had a monster rookie season Back to Jerry Owens, he had very impressive AA numbers two years ago but he really struggled in AAA last year. He is pretty bad defensively but, IMO, he is better then Pods in the OF. He is also a LF, not a CF. I think Owens is best suited for 4th OF in the MLB. He has speed, he is a good contact hitter, and he could play all 3 spots if needed. But then again, he can be a decent leadoff hitter if he can work on his stealing and fine toon his hitting. Right now, IMO, if Owens could hit .300 against big league pitching, he's a better option than Podsednik due to age, injury, and cost. I just have seen nothing yet that convinces me that he can hit that well in the real show.
March 8, 200719 yr I like the idea of possibly having Owens start off the year at leadoff and left field because if he does good, we have possibly found our future for leadoff hitter for a couple years at least.
March 8, 200719 yr Anyone who questions Mike Caruso's talent is a f***ing idiot. The man had and likely still has (he's still only 29) all the talent in the world. He played some solid defense his rookie year in 1998 as a 21 year old rookie his defense only slipped the following year in '99 likely because of an unwillingness to improve on his game and some extraciricular activities that may hamper an athletes abilities. Anyone who hits .306 with 22 SBs and an 89 OPS as a 21 year old rookie obviously has some f***ing talent damnit. If he wanted to he could probably earn his way back onto a team as a backup infielder but he's likely a little occupied with other more important dealings in some latin country to work on his game at all.
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 10:48 PM) Anyone who questions Mike Caruso's talent is a f***ing idiot. The man had and likely still has (he's still only 29) all the talent in the world. He played some solid defense his rookie year in 1998 as a 21 year old rookie his defense only slipped the following year in '99 likely because of an unwillingness to improve on his game and some extraciricular activities that may hamper an athletes abilities. Anyone who hits .306 with 22 SBs and an 89 OPS as a 21 year old rookie obviously has some f***ing talent damnit. If he wanted to he could probably earn his way back onto a team as a backup infielder but he's likely a little occupied with other more important dealings in some latin country to work on his game at all. per wikipedia... He currently works as a tax specialist with MetLife in Long Island City, Queens
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 10:54 PM) per wikipedia... Damn straight, making something of himself unlike all you f***ing losers. Tax SPECIALIST b****, SPECIALIST.
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 10:57 PM) Damn straight, making something of himself unlike all you f***ing losers. Tax SPECIALIST b****, SPECIALIST. Hell yeah! Being a specialist is much better then being able to consistantly hit .300 in the majors!
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 10:58 PM) Hell yeah! Being a specialist is much better then being able to consistantly hit .300 in the majors! Any pansy ass b**** can hit .300 at the major league level, hell Mike did it as a 21 year old. He concurred that mountain already, now he's one of the top Tax Specialists in the country. I'm sure he's making 8 figures from Metlife, they're lucky to have him.
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 11:01 PM) Any pansy ass b**** can hit .300 at the major league level, hell Mike did it as a 21 year old. He concurred that mountain already, now he's one of the top Tax Specialists in the country. I'm sure he's making 8 figures from Metlife, they're lucky to have him. Are you kidding me? He is a specialist, not some office lackey! He is probably making 9 figures... at least!
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 08:48 PM) Anyone who questions Mike Caruso's talent is a f***ing idiot. The man had and likely still has (he's still only 29) all the talent in the world. He played some solid defense his rookie year in 1998 as a 21 year old rookie his defense only slipped the following year in '99 likely because of an unwillingness to improve on his game and some extraciricular activities that may hamper an athletes abilities. Anyone who hits .306 with 22 SBs and an 89 OPS as a 21 year old rookie obviously has some f***ing talent damnit. If he wanted to he could probably earn his way back onto a team as a backup infielder but he's likely a little occupied with other more important dealings in some latin country to work on his game at all. Caruso was awesome for a rookie. The sky was the limit for him and man could that guy run. He could have turned into a consistent 50-75 base stealer. Also, lets not forget his rookie season was something like his first year above a ball and he hit .300 doing it. Too bad he had a little dope problem and already thought he was amazing.
March 8, 200719 yr I've actually liked Owens' at bats, and I watched him play some OF (a couple games on TV, and one in person in ST last year). He looked a lot better out there than, say, Ozuna does. Not in the same league as Anderson, though. I'm on the believer side with Owens, I think he can turn into an MLB starting OF. But I'm in the minority. As for this year, if he has a good spring (and thus far, he hasn't), I think he deserves a shot as much as Anderson does. But Owens is still raw, and a year of playing at AAA will help him immensely. He'd be more ready in 2008.
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 8, 2007 -> 08:11 AM) I've actually liked Owens' at bats, and I watched him play some OF (a couple games on TV, and one in person in ST last year). He looked a lot better out there than, say, Ozuna does. Not in the same league as Anderson, though. I'm on the believer side with Owens, I think he can turn into an MLB starting OF. But I'm in the minority. As for this year, if he has a good spring (and thus far, he hasn't), I think he deserves a shot as much as Anderson does. But Owens is still raw, and a year of playing at AAA will help him immensely. He'd be more ready in 2008. With a speed guy, it's surprisingly easy to wind up as a ML quality outfielder, IMO. All you have to do is not strike out. Put the ball in play and you're going to hit for a good average, because you'll beat out enough ground balls to improve your average. And defensively, even if you have no arm and make poor decisions in the OF, your speed can help you make up for the mistakes.
March 8, 200719 yr QUOTE(longshot7 @ Mar 8, 2007 -> 01:33 PM) I wish I knew. I picked him towin ROTY last year. Ha! shows what I know. yeah ya did... good times
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