ShoeLessRob Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 If Podsednik can't even steal bases off Victor Martinez, it's not an exaggeration to suggest he might be done as a useful player. At the very least, he should be on the bench versus all lefties. Pablo Ozuna can start tomorrow against Jeremy Sowers. Per Rotoworld. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:06 PM) Uribe was 2/4 Monday, 0/3 today. You're already whining about an upgrade? Pods was bad today. Can you atleast give him a week before you start crying that we should've signed Pierre or Gary Matthews Jr.? I'm pretty sure fathom would not want a part of either of the two you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Am I the only one who thinks it was an idiotic move by pulling Garland so early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:06 PM) I'm pretty sure fathom would not want a part of either of the two you mentioned. So what other upgrades were out there. As Kenny Williams would say: Names, people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:07 PM) Am I the only one who thinks it was an idiotic move by pulling Garland so early? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 To be positive, Aardsma impressed the s*** out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(TheOcho @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:08 PM) Yes. How so? Grady hadn't hit Garland all day, and Nixon only got one hit. You have to let him finish that inning. It was his game, not Sisco's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:06 PM) Uribe was 2/4 Monday, 0/3 today. You're already whining about an upgrade? Pods was bad today. Can you atleast give him a week before you start crying that we should've signed Pierre or Gary Matthews Jr.? So in just 5 more days Podsednik is going to regain his speed? Super. The guy is slow and appears to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(zenryan @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:51 PM) thats 160 games too many put Erstad in left and Anderson in CF I see that sarcasm flew over your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:09 PM) How so? Grady hadn't hit Garland all day, and Nixon only got one hit. You have to let him finish that inning. It was his game, not Sisco's. Maybe finish that inning, I was under the impression you ment another inning or two. Any which way they all looked bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:07 PM) So what other upgrades were out there. As Kenny Williams would say: Names, people? Erstad, Anderson and Mackowiak are all better players than Podsednik. Ozuna, Mackowiak, Iguchi and Erstad are all better leadoff hitters. I think Podsednik swung the bat a total of 3 times today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:09 PM) How so? Grady hadn't hit Garland all day, and Nixon only got one hit. You have to let him finish that inning. It was his game, not Sisco's. do you understand the terms "control" or "pitch count"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Man oh man, I'm glad I was on the way to the airport here while this gamethread and trainwreck of a game was going on. I see our bullpen is trashed 2 games into the season, horoah. Gamethread post updated, someone with some good vibes post a friggin gamethread tomorrow please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I see. So last year everybody b****ed that Ozzie left his starters in too long when it was clear they didn't have it. Today, he lifts a guy who gave up 5 runs, 7 hits and 4 walks in 5 innings and it was the wrong move? Man, that Ozzie Guillen is just a bad, bad manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:11 PM) I see. So last year everybody b****ed that Ozzie left his starters in too long when it was clear they didn't have it. Today, he lifts a guy who gave up 5 runs, 7 hits and 4 walks in 5 innings and it was the wrong move? Man, that Ozzie Guillen is just a bad, bad manager. no, I'd actually argue that pitching wise, Ozzie made all the right moves today. Offensively it was questionable, but that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:10 PM) Erstad, Anderson and Mackowiak are all better players than Podsednik. Ozuna, Mackowiak, Iguchi and Erstad are all better leadoff hitters. I think Podsednik swung the bat a total of 3 times today. OK. I won't even argue that. When fathom said upgrade I'm assuming he meant we should've signed or traded for somebody. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:10 PM) do you understand the terms "control" or "pitch count"? Pitch count. Only 105 pitches. He should have been able to go to at least 120. And his control wasn't that bad after the 2nd inning. After all, 3 of his 5 walks did come to Hafner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:13 PM) Pitch count. Only 105 pitches. He should have been able to go to at least 120. And his control wasn't that bad after the 2nd inning. After all, 3 of his 5 walks did come to Hafner. Throwing a guy 120 in his first start of the year probably isn't very intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:12 PM) no, I'd actually argue that pitching wise, Ozzie made all the right moves today. Offensively it was questionable, but that happens. I still don't understand why he didn't make defensive substitutions late in the game. He had Erstad and Podsednik in the OF in the 7th and 8th inning. Just craziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:13 PM) Pitch count. Only 105 pitches. He should have been able to go to at least 120. And his control wasn't that bad after the 2nd inning. After all, 3 of his 5 walks did come to Hafner. 105 pitches in the second game of the year? And 4 walks in 5.1? Dude, no, Garland being pulled when he was pulled was the right move, there are really no questions to be asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:14 PM) I still don't understand why he didn't make defensive substitutions late in the game. He had Erstad and Podsednik in the OF in the 7th and 8th inning. Just craziness. GRINDERS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:11 PM) I see. So last year everybody b****ed that Ozzie left his starters in too long when it was clear they didn't have it. Today, he lifts a guy who gave up 5 runs, 7 hits and 4 walks in 5 innings and it was the wrong move? Man, that Ozzie Guillen is just a bad, bad manager. I also had no problem with him pulling Garland, it seemed like the right move at the time. I question him handing Pods a job, allowing him to face Fultz (ridiculous) and the non-moves defensively late in the game. Outside of that, I don't have many problems with him today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 06:03 PM) It would also help if Buehrle and tomorrow's other pitchers give up less than 12 or 8 runs DING DING DING...we have a winner. The Sox pitching doesn't look top shelf at this point. Buehrle looking good tomorrow will DO WONDERS for this team's psyche', not to mention the confidence of our fanbase. We have scored enough runs the last two games to win, but the pitching has now given up 20 runs in two games....THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE, not the complaining about Thome not coming up clutch in the 9th when he helped push us up to seven runs. Pitching = Championships....right now, it appears we don't have that, but there is time to get it turned around. I still like some of the talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Question: I didn't see Aardsma's first inning of work. Was he around 89-91 with his fastball that inning? I didn't see 1 fastball clocked over 91 in his second inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:20 PM) Question: I didn't see Aardsma's first inning of work. Was he around 89-91 with his fastball that inning? I didn't see 1 fastball clocked over 91 in his second inning. He was at 93-94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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