An Australian hotel catering for hetrosexuals has won the right to ban homosexuals from its bars so as to provide a comfortable venue for straight men not wanting to associate with homosexuals.

 

In what is believed to be a first for Australia, the Victorian state civil and administrative tribunal ruled last week that the Peel Hotel in the southern city of Melbourne could exclude patrons based on their sexuality.

 

Australia’s equal opportunity laws prevent people being discriminated against based on race, religion or sexuality.

 

But Peel Hotel owner Tom McFeely said the ruling was necessary to provide straight men with a homosexual-free atmosphere where they may be free of increasingly aggressive advances by emboldened homsexuals.

 

“If I can limit the number of homosexuals entering the Peel, then that helps me keep the safe balance,” Peel told Australian radio on Monday.

 

McFeely said that, while the hotel welcomed everyone, its straight clientele had expressed discomfort over the number of homosexuals coming to the venue in the past year.

 

He said there were more than 2,000 venues in Melbourne that catered to homosexuals, but his hotel was the only one marketing itself exclusively to heterosexuals.

 

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never happen, right? Now switch heterosexuals with homosexuals, and switch straight with gay, and you have the real story.

http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnough...D21543120070529

As long as they don't smoke, they should be allowed in

You know, I really don't have a big problem with this. On this level, it's a private business presumably, they should be able to refuse service to anyone. Not sure how I'd react if it was a bar banning the handicapped or something like that, but lots of businesses provide different services based on sex, for example (ladies night!).

Gay bars don't ban heterosexuals in the US and let's hope it stays that way.

I think they should have the right to refuse anyone they want, so I'm OK with it. On a political/legal level.

 

On a personal level, I find it sort of disgusting, and I would never patronize that establishment.

WHOA, I'm a little shocked by the above. Y'all would be supportive of No Blacks bars?

WHOA, I'm a little shocked by the above. Y'all would be supportive of No Blacks bars?

Supportive? No. I would be OK with any business choosing its customers, and I believe that a bar should be allowed to do that if they choose. But you can bet your ass I wouldn't do anything to ever support such an establishment.

 

There is a difference between what I feel personally, and what should be allowed. I despise racism and other forms of bigotry, but a person should be able to conduct their private business in any way they like. This is one of the reasons I really dislike the far-right social conservatives - you can like or dislike anything you'd like, but keep your laws of people's personal lives.

And what happens at the door? Do they have, as my gay friends have so hilariously put it, "Gay-dar"(rhymes with radar) to detect the homosexuals and turn them away?

 

Not all homosexual men are the stereotypical flamboyant feminine men.

Anybody else hear that guy on Boers and Bernstein the other day that said being gay should be a felony because it's immoral, and dog fighting is ok because it's evolution just like Sir Issac Newton invented? Good times.

 

Oh, you mean that has nothing to do with this thread? Ok then, I will say this is pretty asinine to ban somebody from a bar due to sexual preference.

 

And what happens at the door? Do they have, as my gay friends have so hilariously put it, "Gay-dar"(rhymes with radar) to detect the homosexuals and turn them away?

 

Not all homosexual men are the stereotypical flamboyant feminine men.

 

First of all, gaydar rhymes with radar? You don't say , and second, I would assume the fast majority of gay men aren't the stereotype flamboyant type.

Anybody else hear that guy on Boers and Bernstein the other day that said being gay should be a felony because it's immoral, and dog fighting is ok because it's evolution just like Sir Issac Newton invented? Good times.

 

Oh, you mean that has nothing to do with this thread? Ok then, I will say this is pretty asinine to ban somebody from a bar due to sexual preference.

 

i did catch that. that guy was a moron, he was equating raising a child to teaching a dog to fight. He said something along the lines of "only the strong survive" and then quoted Sir Isaac Newton on his law of survival/evolution.

 

Anybody else hear that guy on Boers and Bernstein the other day that said being gay should be a felony because it's immoral, and dog fighting is ok because it's evolution just like Sir Issac Newton invented? Good times.

 

Oh, you mean that has nothing to do with this thread? Ok then, I will say this is pretty asinine to ban somebody from a bar due to sexual preference.

First of all, gaydar rhymes with radar? You don't say , and second, I would assume the fast majority of gay men aren't the stereotype flamboyant type.

 

Well, the typing police are out in full force. Did you mean Vast or Fast?

And what happens at the door? Do they have, as my gay friends have so hilariously put it, "Gay-dar"(rhymes with radar) to detect the homosexuals and turn them away?

 

Not all homosexual men are the stereotypical flamboyant feminine men.

They must be friends with Bender.

 

Amy: So what do you think of that guy by the bar?

Leela: I don't know. Maybe?

Bender: Forget it, he's gay.

Leela: What? How can you tell?

Bender: I just know these things. I've got what they call gaydar.

Leela: There's no such thing.

Bender: No? [He pulls out a machine with a small antenna on it from his chest cabinet. The antenna swivels around.] OK, I got a lock on him. [The machine beeps.] Yep! He's gay!

Amy: Are you sure?

Bender: Definitely. Unless I'm getting interference from a gay weather balloon.

Supportive? No. I would be OK with any business choosing its customers, and I believe that a bar should be allowed to do that if they choose. But you can bet your ass I wouldn't do anything to ever support such an establishment.

 

There is a difference between what I feel personally, and what should be allowed. I despise racism and other forms of bigotry, but a person should be able to conduct their private business in any way they like. This is one of the reasons I really dislike the far-right social conservatives - you can like or dislike anything you'd like, but keep your laws of people's personal lives.

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40 years of civil rights and we'd be right back to where we started? Segregated bathrooms? Segregated hotels? Sorry, I can't support that in any way.

Could the sign say No n*****s? 40 years of civil rights and we'd be right back to where we started? Segregated bathrooms? Segregated hotels? Sorry, I can't support that in any way.

 

Aren't we beyond this sort of thinking though? Shouldn't the pendulum swing back some? The vast majority of people in the country don't care about your race or religion or sexual orientation. So what if this person doesn't want homosexuals in his bar? Don't go there if you don't agree. It's not as if this one guy will cause every other bar owner to become anti-gay. The fear of shutting out minorities is long gone.

 

And really this issue makes me laugh. In every educational institution I've been in (college and now law school) there have always been certain scholarships for blacks (or any other race) or women, job fairs for minorities only, organizations for minorities/gays only, etc etc. Most of them say 'for minorities only' so it's not a situation in which everyone is invited but it's tailored towards minorities. Oh I know, white males have every advantage in life (bullsh*t, I'd argue we have a tougher time in 2007 living in a metro area), but it still cracks me up.

We're beyond that thinking because its been eliminated from our society for decades now. Introduce it back in now, and see where we are again in 2050.

I definitely would never patronize that business again, but in some ways it's better to know where they stand on those kind of issues. I would rather know they're a bunch of homophobic idgets so I don't patronize them and give them my money, than the unkowingly give bigots my money.

 

I still think it's absolutely mollifying that we have this kind of discrimination in 2007.

Y'all should read the link. A gay bar in Australia got the right to ban straight people. That's a bar I'd never go to.

It's their bar, they could do whatever they want, as long as it is legal, of course.

Y'all should read the link. A gay bar in Australia got the right to ban straight people. That's a bar I'd never go to.

That is really dumb. Are they also not allowing lesbians--because it kind of sounded like that. . .

 

Whatever, it's their legal right, but that's freaking lame. I wouldn't even stay at the hotel.

It's their bar, they could do whatever they want, as long as it is legal, of course.

 

I think that's the argument -- whether or not discrimination based on sexuality should be legal.

I still think it's absolutely mollifying that we have this kind of discrimination in 2007.

Sure that's the word you wanted to use there? Cuz if so, I'm confused.

Sure that's the word you wanted to use there? Cuz if so, I'm confused.

Sorry, I'd spent the day reading over 150 pages of scholarly articles. Sometimes my brain shuts down.

And what happens at the door? Do they have, as my gay friends have so hilariously put it, "Gay-dar"(rhymes with radar) to detect the homosexuals and turn them away?

 

Not all homosexual men are the stereotypical flamboyant feminine men.

 

 

There you go making sense again.

40 years of civil rights and we'd be right back to where we started? Segregated bathrooms? Segregated hotels? Sorry, I can't support that in any way.

 

So you are dropping your support of the boy scouts?

So you are dropping your support of the boy scouts?

 

Private organization. Different rules.

Private organization. Different rules.

 

It this place a wholey owned private bar? Would it be OK if they just changed the name on the wall from "bar" to "club"?