Who the Hell cares what a candidate does to improve their appearance? Why does this matter at all? Is John McCain a wuss because he has makeup put on to make his head look less shiny when he's appearing on TV?

 

I agree one hundred per cent here. This is one area where sexism is still really prevalent in our society. Do you hear anyone talking about Obama hiding gray hair, or McCains wrinkles? Yet there is an entire webpage of horrible pictures of Hillary. Of all of the reasons I don't like Hillary Clinton, who really gives a s*** what she looks like or what she does to cover it up?

The next time you see a 60+ year old woman on the street somewhere, I expect you to point and laugh.

I will. It will be hilarious.

 

In all seriousness, I think a certain level of the Presidency honestly should consider appearance. Do I want a feeble, horrible looking grandmother as the main representative of this country? No.

 

I think my question asking whether she'd keep with the Botox/facelifting that she's obviously been doing is a valid one. The way she "fixes" herself up works for me, I actually think she looks remarkable considering her age. However, who knows if once elected (which isn't happening anyway, so this is hypothetical), would she keep it up?

Edited May 8, 200817 yr by Steve9347

I will. It will be hilarious.

 

In all seriousness, I think a certain level of the Presidency honestly should consider appearance. Do I want a feeble, horrible looking grandmother as the main representative of this country? No.

 

I think my question asking whether she'd keep with the Botox/facelifting that she's obviously been doing is a valid one.

On the tax payer's dime, no less, I'm sure.

 

Who cares?

Who cares?

I obviously did as I brought it up...

 

Duh!

Per DCW, Clinton's superdelegate lead now in single digits.

Per DCW, Clinton's superdelegate lead now in single digits.

 

Seven, to be specific (per CNN).

 

If i said you lost your bearings, do you think I am calling you old?

If i said you lost your bearings, do you think I am calling you old?

If you say that to me it means I'm lacking in good sense and judgment and/or I'm not conducting myself properly. I have no idea what the big deal is here and no clue how somebody can draw the conclusion that Obama is being "ageist." First off it has to be taken in context what Obama was responding to (McCain's distortion of Obama's position on Hamas, making him out to be a terrorist sympathizer, which Obama was taking offense to when he said that) and secondly, hell, even McCain makes fun of himself for being old.

If i said you lost your bearings, do you think I am calling you old?

 

Well I'm not old so I wouldn't, but the thought did cross my mind about McCain's age when I saw the headline earlier.

 

Of course that doesn't mean the McCain camp is any less stupid for implying that what Hamas thinks should matter.

Edited May 9, 200817 yr by KipWellsFan

Of course that doesn't mean the McCain camp is any less stupid for implying that what Hamas thinks should matter.

But he and his wife said they wouldnt run a negative campaign. OOPS! Guess they forgot to tell the staff.

maybe i was hearing/seeing things this morning because I was in a rush, but I swear ABC had a story at the top of the hour, actually more than a story they had the "breaking news" label on it, that Obama took over the superdelgate lead. Was I just half hearing the story that he's narrowing in? I haven't seen anything on the net about it

maybe i was hearing/seeing things this morning because I was in a rush, but I swear ABC had a story at the top of the hour, actually more than a story they had the "breaking news" label on it, that Obama took over the superdelgate lead. Was I just half hearing the story that he's narrowing in? I haven't seen anything on the net about it

It's on the front page of Huffington. DCW, CNN, AP, and NBC still have her barely leading. (Check out the 2nd chart on the left side of DCW)

Edited May 9, 200817 yr by BigSqwert

maybe i was hearing/seeing things this morning because I was in a rush, but I swear ABC had a story at the top of the hour, actually more than a story they had the "breaking news" label on it, that Obama took over the superdelgate lead. Was I just half hearing the story that he's narrowing in? I haven't seen anything on the net about it

George "Clinton Suck-up" Stephanopoulos said Obama had the superdelegate lead which is inaccurate.

 

Edit: Well, ABC says their version of the Superdelegate count has Obama ahead...

ABC

OBAMA 267

CLINTON 265

Edited May 9, 200817 yr by Athomeboy_2000

George "Clinton Suck-up" Stephanopoulos said Obama had the superdelegate lead which is inaccurate.

 

Edit: Well, ABC says their version of the Superdelegate count has Obama ahead...

ABC

OBAMA 267

CLINTON 265

Yeah, he was on ABC this morning during the segment, so it seems like ABC is trying to break the story.

Yeah, he was on ABC this morning during the segment, so it seems like ABC is trying to break the story.

I dont doubt that to their knowledge this is true, but I find it odd they are the ONLY wans with Obama ahead. All the others have it 7+ for Clinton.

Every media source keeps their track of superdelegates differently because it's not like there is an official list or scoreboard with everybody's name on it. They just go off what was said in public or what have you so there is margin for error. I've been following mainly CNN's delegate count since the beginning and they have Clinton +7.

Every media source keeps their track of superdelegates differently because it's not like there is an official list or scoreboard with everybody's name on it. They just go off what was said in public or what have you so there is margin for error. I've been following mainly CNN's delegate count since the beginning and they have Clinton +7.

DCW is pretty solid since they have a link to every single endorsement.

DCW is pretty solid since they have a link to every single endorsement.

Nice.

DCW is pretty solid since they have a link to every single endorsement.

The issue is always going to be, given a couple hundred public statements...how specific is each public statement?

Monty Obama...

 

Every media source keeps their track of superdelegates differently because it's not like there is an official list or scoreboard with everybody's name on it. They just go off what was said in public or what have you so there is margin for error. I've been following mainly CNN's delegate count since the beginning and they have Clinton +7.

The fun part of this over the next week or two is going to be...each count is different, so each network is going to give him the lead in superdelegates at a different point. Which means that this same story is going to be published about a dozen times over the next week or two, as ABC, NBC, CBS, Faux, the NY Times, the USA Today, the LA Times, and various internet sources that are doing counts each have the count flip. So basically, if you get your news from more than one source, you're going to get the "Obama takes the Superdelegate lead" meme absolutely pounded in to your head over the next week as it actually happens.

Rasmussen Ends Daily Tracking Poll of Dem Primary

While Senator Clinton has remained close and competitive in every meaningful measure, she is a close second and the race is over. It has become clear that Barack Obama will be the Democratic nominee. With this in mind, Rasmussen Reports will soon end our daily tracking of the Democratic race and focus exclusively on the general election.

DCW is pretty solid since they have a link to every single endorsement.

Lead is down to 5.5.

269.5 - 264

If the California Primary were held today, Obama wins. Poll via SurveyUSA

While voters in the California Democratic Presidential Primary backed Clinton by a 10-point margin, a new SurveyUSA poll shows that if given the chance to vote again, Californians would choose Barack Obama by a 6-point margin, 49%-43%.

 

The poll was conducted on May 7 and 8 and has a margin of error of 4%.

The most recent superdelegate endorsement from Vernon Watkins (CA) sums it all up nicely:

"The election is over, everybody knows that. Obama has won"