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The Democrat Thread

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 08:54 AM)

Good, that guy should never have been nominated. Another example of Obama's odd tendency to nominate people with legally or financially troubled pasts.

 

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 08:54 AM)

 

How is that for irony... The guy admits to running illegal background checks on his ex's-boyfriend and yet the Dems have problems with illegal information gathering on terrorists... Oh but he changed his story!

 

lol.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:00 AM)
Good, that guy should never have been nominated. Another example of Obama's odd tendency to nominate people with legally or financially troubled pasts.

What exactly was wrong with him (Seriously?). The guy holding him up supposedly did so because of a concern that he might not be a big enough enemy of unions in the workforce.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:09 AM)
How is that for irony... The guy admits to running illegal background checks on his ex's-boyfriend and yet the Dems have problems with illegal information gathering on terrorists... Oh but he changed his story!

 

lol.

I see, I hadn't even read that about him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 09:11 AM)
I see, I hadn't even read that about him.

Yeah... I'd have to think there is a candidate for this job, somewhere, that hasn't himself showed multiple instances of abusing a position of power in law enforcement.

 

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:28 AM)
Yeah... I'd have to think there is a candidate for this job, somewhere, that hasn't himself showed multiple instances of abusing a position of power in law enforcement.

He'll still wind up with a hold on him unless he's sufficiently anti-Union.

The Dow down almost 160 after the GOP picks up another seat.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 09:46 AM)
The Dow down almost 160 after the GOP picks up another seat.

 

Or on construction starts being way down...

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 09:48 AM)
Or on construction starts being way down...

Or a continuing trend of being unsure about the various numbers coming out, or worries on what January will look like for retailers and employers. Any of those are more likely than the Coakley/Brown thing, which if anything, would result in the market running up (which it did yesterday, on the back of a run in health care after the election).

 

I should have added green.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:48 AM)
Or on construction starts being way down...

 

Jim Cramer did predict a 200 point rally on the back of a Brown rally. And he is always right, so... I'm blaming this on Obama.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 11:04 AM)
Jim Cramer did predict a 200 point rally on the back of a Brown rally. And he is always right, so... I'm blaming this on Obama.

 

lol@ listening to Jim Cramer.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 11:52 AM)
lol@ listening to Jim Cramer.

HE SCREAMS A LOT!!! HE MUST BE RIGHT!!!

McCain: Dont Bother Me With The Facts

MCCAIN: I think everybody knows the facts of the Christmas bomber . a person buys a ticket with cash -- one way ticket -- his father has already warned the CIA. a series of missteps have taken place lead to this near-tragedy. ...

 

It's fairly clear the facts of what happened, isn't it ?

 

LEITER: Well, actually, I think many of the facts are clear. I would correct the record on a couple of points. In fact, the fact is not that he bought a one-way ticket, he bought a round-trip ticket. The fact that he used cash frankly is in Africa completely and utterly

 

MCCAIN (interrupting Leiter): That was in Copenhagen, not Africa

 

LEITER: Ah, no sir. I believe he bought the

 

MCCAIN: If you think -- if you're defending that we shouldn't have been alerted to this individual, sir, then ...

 

LEITER: Senator, I apologize.

 

Don't ever question the Maverick. He has excellent judgment.

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:28 AM)
Yeah... I'd have to think there is a candidate for this job, somewhere, that hasn't himself showed multiple instances of abusing a position of power in law enforcement.

After checking, this appears to be an incident that occurred in the 1980's.

 

Simple question...how exactly is this guy disqualified when GWB was able to put damn Iran Contra criminals pardoned by his father into multiple government positions, including those approved by the Senate?

 

Seriously, this guy gets a reprimand and that becomes the excuse to get rid of him, while the Senate approved multiple previously pardoned people for GWB. I guess IOKIYAR.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 01:37 PM)
After checking, this appears to be an incident that occurred in the 1980's.

 

Simple question...how exactly is this guy disqualified when GWB was able to put damn Iran Contra criminals pardoned by his father into multiple government positions, including those approved by the Senate?

 

Seriously, this guy gets a reprimand and that becomes the excuse to get rid of him, while the Senate approved multiple previously pardoned people for GWB. I guess IOKIYAR.

Did I say the others were OK? Are you seriously using the 12-year-old classic excuse of "everyone else is doing it!"?

 

If you are looking for a nominee to run the Transportation SECURITY Administration, you'd think you might want to find someone who hadn't abused power and broken the law in a law enforcement role previously. Call me crazy.

 

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 02:46 PM)
Did I say the others were OK? Are you seriously using the 12-year-old classic excuse of "everyone else is doing it!"?

 

If you are looking for a nominee to run the Transportation SECURITY Administration, you'd think you might want to find someone who hadn't abused power and broken the law in a law enforcement role previously. Call me crazy.

I'm just a little annoyed here. Bush got whatever he wanted through the Senate Dems, including guys who did a lot worse than this guy. Now the Dems can't do squat, and it's actually hurting. Diplomats are missing, a ton of positions at Treasury are still unfilled, the TSA has no head and there are a bunch of other intelligence postions unfilled, and when bad things happen, it's of course the Administration that takes the blame.

 

I'm just somewhat frustrated over how badly the Senate has broken down over the last year.

 

Bush got wars, funding for those wars without any checks, the Patriot Act, multiple Iran Contra criminals, John Ashcroft, Mike Brown, 3 budget busting tax cuts, and his insurance company bailout bill all through the Senate. The Dems can't even get a frankly qualified guy to the TSA.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 01:49 PM)
I'm just a little annoyed here. Bush got whatever he wanted through the Senate Dems, including guys who did a lot worse than this guy. Now the Dems can't do squat, and it's actually hurting. Diplomats are missing, a ton of positions at Treasury are still unfilled, the TSA has no head and there are a bunch of other intelligence postions unfilled, and when bad things happen, it's of course the Administration that takes the blame.

 

I'm just somewhat frustrated over how badly the Senate has broken down over the last year.

 

Bush got wars, funding for those wars without any checks, the Patriot Act, multiple Iran Contra criminals, John Ashcroft, Mike Brown, 3 budget busting tax cuts, and his insurance company bailout bill all through the Senate. The Dems can't even get a frankly qualified guy to the TSA.

Its nto been the past year, its been many years in the making. I said it when BushCo was in office, and its only more true now... Congress is doing a lot more damage in this country than the Presidents have.

 

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 01:54 PM)
Congress is doing a lot more damage in this country than the Presidents have.

 

 

And that is our system. As I have often said, the president gets far too much credit, and far too much blame, for what happens in this country. Reagan and Clinton excelled as cheerleaders, and the country did well during their terms. It may be a symbiotic relationship, but I think you need that ability to make Americans feel good about America.

I think a couple of you are underestimating how much things changed last year.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jan 19, 2010 -> 10:34 PM)
Ok, then I'm wrong.

 

Post me a linky, because I don't understand that as being the rules.

I don't have a link but I'll vouch for Balta here, that's the rule. I think the senator in question is Coburn (god I hate that guy).

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 21, 2010 -> 08:55 AM)
haha i figure it's only right for me to be the one to post this:

John Edwards is a douchecock

 

"It was wrong for me ever to deny she was my daughter and hopefully one day, when she understands, she will forgive me,"

 

What is there to understand? Your daughter was less important than your political career.

 

 

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