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The Democrat Thread

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 25, 2010 -> 10:15 AM)
The Sunlight foundation is streaming the summit. And they're using modern technology to display, ever time a person speaks, the campaign contributions they've receivedf from the Health Care industry.

That's actually pretty cool.

 

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 25, 2010 -> 10:15 AM)
The Sunlight foundation is streaming the summit. And they're using modern technology to display, ever time a person speaks, the campaign contributions they've receivedf from the Health Care industry.

 

nice

It really is a shame what money does to politics. No doubt that politicians need money to get elected and re-elected. Also, if, for example, you are an alernative energy company and NSS (a strong advocate of alternative energy sources) was running for office, you would damn sure want him elected and would probably donate to his campaign. He in turn would be grateful for the support and easily accept your donation with a very clear concious.

 

Later, if an alt energy bill was being debated, and the dollars were displayed, it looks bad.

 

 

 

LOL

 

[M]ost the time, [watching Obama at the summit] is like watching Lebron James play basketball with a bunch of kids who got cut from the 7th grade basketball team. He's treating them really nice, letting his teammates take shots and allowing the other team to try to score. Nice try on that layup, Timmy, you almost got it on. But after a couple minutes I want him to just grab the ball and dunk on these clowns already.

 

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QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 25, 2010 -> 12:41 PM)
It really is a shame what money does to politics. No doubt that politicians need money to get elected and re-elected. Also, if, for example, you are an alernative energy company and NSS (a strong advocate of alternative energy sources) was running for office, you would damn sure want him elected and would probably donate to his campaign. He in turn would be grateful for the support and easily accept your donation with a very clear concious.

 

Later, if an alt energy bill was being debated, and the dollars were displayed, it looks bad.

I don't think it looks bad, or good - I just think its good to have the information out there. If I was in that position, and some alt energy companies donated to my campaign, then put it out there. No problem by me.

 

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Senator Jon Kyl and Senator Jim Bunning (Both GOP, from AZ and KY respectively) stopped unanimous consent to extend unemployment benefits (which expire at the end of the week) last night.

 

Apparently, according to CQ, Kyl is holding unemployment extensions hostage for a guaranteed fix on the estate tax.

Emphasis mine...

 

Jim Bunning, a Republican from Kentucky, is single-handedly blocking Senate action needed to prevent an estimated 1.2 million American workers from prematurely losing their unemployment benefits next month.

 

As Democratic senators asked again and again for unanimous consent for a vote on a 30-day extension Thursday night, Bunning refused to go along.

 

And when Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) begged him to drop his objection, Politico reports, Bunning replied: "Tough s***."

 

Bunning says he doesn't oppose extending benefits -- he just doesn't want the money that's required added to the deficit. He proposes paying for the 30-day extension with stimulus funds. The Senate's GOP leadership did not support him in his objections.

 

And at one point during the debate, which dragged on till nearly midnight, Bunning complained of missing a basketball game.

 

"I have missed the Kentucky-South Carolina game that started at 9:00," he said,

"and it's the only redeeming chance we had to beat South Carolina since they're the only team that has beat Kentucky this year.

 

The unemployment rate in Kentucky is 10.7 percent.

 

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 26, 2010 -> 10:17 AM)
Emphasis mine...

 

 

 

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I must be missing something here. Why do they need unanimous consent? Why not just pass it 99-1, point out to everyone what an asshole this guy is being, and move on?

 

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 26, 2010 -> 10:23 AM)
I must be missing something here. Why do they need unanimous consent? Why not just pass it 99-1, point out to everyone what an asshole this guy is being, and move on?

 

 

I'm not an expert on these matters but here's what I dug up from some comments in a similar article:

 

[F]rom what I hear there is no way for them to go around his objections because the motion they're considering requires unanimous consent from everyone in the chamber. From what I've read about this, it's not like they can force him to stop objecting and just pass the bill without him.

Then put it in legislation in regular order And pass it with 60 votes. This isn't rocket science.

The benefits expire on Sunday, apparently putting in regular order wasn't an option.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 26, 2010 -> 10:29 AM)
I'm not an expert on these matters but here's what I dug up from some comments in a similar article:

Oh, this is a show of hands vote then? I think I know now what they are saying. As long as they have a certain number of Senators present (not sure if its 50, or 60, or 67, or what), they can do a quick vote and pass anything if it goes unanimously. Forgot about that.

 

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 26, 2010 -> 10:20 AM)
In a move likely to help the Dems hold the spot, reportedly Governor Patterson of NY will end his election campaign.

 

Cuomo almost assuredly would have taken him down in the primaries anyways. Patterson is one majorly disliked individual in New York State right now

GOP Filibuster Record: Republicans Using Obstruction Tool With Astonishing Frequency

The frequency of filibusters – plus threats to use them – are measured by the number of times the upper chamber votes on cloture. Such votes test the majority's ability to hold together 60 members to break a filibuster.

 

Last year, the first of the 111th Congress, there were a record 112 cloture votes. In the first two months of 2010, the number already exceeds 40.

 

That means, with 10 months left to run in the 111th Congress, Republicans have turned to the filibuster or threatened its use at a pace that will more than triple the old record. The 104th Congress in 1995-96 – when Republicans held a 53-47 majority – required 50 cloture votes.

If any of you have ever heard of the book "The Big Con," part of that book talks about how traditional conservatives in national politics got wiped out and replaced by the total hacks running the current Republican party. What's kind of ironic is how there is an entire subculture dedicated to preserving/revising Reagan's image as the perfect Republican, when in reality, Reagan did things that would be considered apostasy in today's party (exhibit 1A: raised taxes more than once). Also a complete and total debunking of their cockamamie-ass ideas that tax cuts always pay for themselves in revenue (Reagan's massive deficits, Clinton's surplus and economic boom after they predicted his tax increases would be a disaster and turn us into a socialist country, Bush's massive deficits after they said his tax cuts would generate a surplus) doesn't embarrass them at all, they just double down and find something else to credit/blame.

Haven't seen one of these posted, so here it is for some levity.

 

Barack Obama's Facebook Feed

The health care summit, CPAC, and Robert Gibbs' tweets.

http://www.slate.com/id/2245175/

 

The part about Patterson is the best.

s*** I totally forgot to post that.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 1, 2010 -> 04:35 PM)
s*** I totally forgot to post that.

Someone gets an F for the day. . .

QUOTE (Soxy @ Mar 1, 2010 -> 04:47 PM)
Someone gets an F for the day. . .

:( can I do extra credit?

Step 1. Edit tapes. Step 2. Fox News. Step 3: Blame Democrats.

Brooklyn prosecutors on Monday cleared ACORN of criminal wrongdoing after a four-month probe that began when undercover conservative activists filmed workers giving what appeared to be illegal advice on how to hide money.

 

While the video by James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles seemed to show three ACORN workers advising a prostitute how to hide ill-gotten gains, the unedited version was not as clear, according to a law enforcement source.

 

"They edited the tape to meet their agenda," said the source.

 

O'Keefe and Giles - who visited ACORN offices in several cities, including its Brooklyn headquarters - stirred controversy when they posted the videos on their Web site.

 

They were hailed as heroes by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and their footage led several government agencies to temporarily cut funding for ACORN as the prosecutors opened an investigation.

 

"On Sept. 15, 2009, my office began an investigation into possible criminality on the part of three ACORN employees," Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes said in a one-paragraph statement issued Monday afternoon.

 

"That investigation is now concluded and no criminality has been found."

You know something Balta, that's never going to make it in the information loop, the other version has already been accepted as fact before the fact was even established. It's pissing into the wind.

QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Mar 2, 2010 -> 01:40 AM)
Apologies in advance for this lack of political correctness, but Brooklyn has a lot of black people...

 

ahh, right, as opposed to the impartial rich fratty spoiled brats.

 

You know how many tricks he used? He never went up to these employees dressed up as a pimp, they were in business casual clothing. Also, most all of the videos showed the employees urging the girl to seek treatment. theres a great write up i wont bother to link you to because your comment was retarded and worthy of a congressman from arizona or tennessee.

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And ACORN has done a lot of good for the working poor in urban areas, no matter what anyone else has said.

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