lostfan Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 It's ironic that the Obama administration doesn't trust the press any more than the Bush administration ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 23, 2009 -> 12:55 PM) http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/2...ked-by-discord/ What idiot reporter asked this question: "How is it transparent," another reporter asked, "when you control the only image of the re-swearing - there's nobody in there but four print reporters, there's no stills, there's no television? And the only recording that comes out, as I understand it, is one that a reporter made, not one that the White House supplied." First, there WERE stills. Second, there WAS a recording, audio, I've heard it. Third, they almost never allow video in the White House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 When I was watching the local news, they were talking about "see... it's a CONSPIRACY - he's REALLY not a Christian because when he took his second oath there wasn't a bible! ". I about puked. Why can't people STFU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 23, 2009 -> 09:44 AM) 24 hour cable news will be the death of journalism in this country. It's basically on its death bed and cable news had little to do with its cancerous demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Uh oh, Obama regime kills 18 in pakistan. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090123/D95T436O0.html warmonger Obama. no blood for oil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jan 23, 2009 -> 05:16 PM) Uh oh, Obama regime kills 18 in pakistan. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090123/D95T436O0.html warmonger Obama. no blood for oil! Even for you, that's a little over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jan 23, 2009 -> 07:41 PM) Even for you, that's a little over the top. I'm pretty sure that was heavy sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 23, 2009 -> 06:42 PM) I'm pretty sure that was heavy sarcasm? no sarcasm involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jan 23, 2009 -> 04:53 PM) no sarcasm involved Where is Pakistan's oil field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 23, 2009 -> 08:48 PM) Where is Pakistan's oil field? those were practice bombings. bigger and better (blood for oil) things to come hopefully. it's what every Republican leaning poster wants/demands. Edited January 24, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 So when does President ETHICS tell DODD he has to step down as Chairman of the Banking Committee until he releases all documents relating to his loans from CFC? I think it laughable that Frank rambles on about where the money went, and then gets 12 million for a bank in Mass. that is so undercapitalized that this $12 million will do nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Continuing on the path towards 2012...I give you...SarahPAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 03:25 PM) Continuing on the path towards 2012...I give you...SarahPAC. If she gets the GOP nomination in 2012, you can pretty much hand a second term to Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 04:25 PM) Continuing on the path towards 2012...I give you...SarahPAC. She has no chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 still 4 years away, but Palin has little to no chance of getting the nomination from what i can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) If she gets the GOP nomination in 2012, you can pretty much hand a second term to Obama. Unless things are worse than today. Just like any Dem had a huge advantage over any GOP in their last election, the economy, Iraq, and security will be the litmus test for Obama. If he has failed, then any GOP will probably win. Allow me to phrase it this way also Any GOP would have a great chance, Palin may have the worst of the great chances, while other candidates, would have even better chances. But I would not discount her chances if Obama is Bush III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jan 28, 2009 -> 09:26 AM) Unless things are worse than today. Just like any Dem had a huge advantage over any GOP in their last election, the economy, Iraq, and security will be the litmus test for Obama. If he has failed, then any GOP will probably win. Allow me to phrase it this way also Any GOP would have a great chance, Palin may have the worst of the great chances, while other candidates, would have even better chances. But I would not discount her chances if Obama is Bush III I don't know. Even the inept Bush II was re-elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 From the bill: Provided further, That of the amount appropriated under this heading ["Prevention and Wellness Fund"] not less than $2,350,000,000 shall be transferred to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as follows: (1) not less than $954,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out the immunization program authorized by section 317(a), (j), and (k)(1) of the Public Health Service Act (‘‘section 317 immunization program’’), of which $649,900,000 shall be available on October 1, 2009; (2) not less than $296,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out Part A of title XIX of the Public Health Service Act, of which $148,000,000 shall be available on October 1, 2009; (3) not less than $545,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out chronic disease, health promotion, and genomics programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services ("Secretary") and the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ("Director"); (4) not less than $335,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out domestic HIV/AIDS, viral hepatitis, sexually-transmitted diseases, and tuberculosis prevention programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director; (5) not less than $60,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out environmental health programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director; (6) not less than $50,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out injury prevention and control programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director; (7) not less than $30,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount for public health workforce development activities, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director; (8) not less than $40,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount for the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health to carry out research activities within the National Occupational Research Agenda; and (9) not less than $40,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount for the National Center for Health Statistics: Provided further, That of the amount appropriated under this heading not less than $150,000,000 shall be available for an additional amount to carry out activities to implement a national action plan to prevent healthcare-associated infections, as determined by the Secretary, of which not less $50,000,000 shall be provided to States to implement healthcare-associated infection reduction strategies: Provided further, That of the amount appropriated under this heading $500,000,000 shall be used to carry out evidence-based clinical and community-based prevention and wellness strategies and public health workforce development activities authorized by the Public Health Service Act, as determined by the Secretary, that deliver specific, measurable health outcomes that address chronic and infectious disease rates and health disparities, which shall include evidence-based interventions in obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, tobacco cessation and smoking prevention, and oral health, and which may be used for the Healthy Communities program administered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other existing community-based programs administered by the Department of Health and Human Services. Of course, there is similiar stuff throughout the 647-page bill. Remember when Newt Gingrich and others were fighting Hillary Clinton's health care reform proposal? Gingrich's cry at that time was "Read the bill." He didn't have to spin it for people if he could just get them to read what was actually in Mrs. Clinton's proposal. Now Republicans are asking the same thing again: Read the bill. The only stimulus occurring from this is from a free hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 And can we now call it $1.3 trillion "stimulus". We have to include the interest carried on the debt, right? Let's be TRANSPARENT boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 This bill is a gift to Republicans. Not a single one should vote in the affirmative for this slop. And in the election cycle 2010, print copies of parts of this bill like the one in my previous post to show constituents how awful the bill actually is/was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (Cknolls @ Jan 28, 2009 -> 11:19 AM) From the bill: Provided further, That of the amount appropriated under this heading ["Prevention and Wellness Fund"] not less than $2,350,000,000 shall be transferred to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as follows: (1) not less than $954,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out the immunization program authorized by section 317(a), (j), and (k)(1) of the Public Health Service Act (‘‘section 317 immunization program’’), of which $649,900,000 shall be available on October 1, 2009; (2) not less than $296,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out Part A of title XIX of the Public Health Service Act, of which $148,000,000 shall be available on October 1, 2009; (3) not less than $545,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out chronic disease, health promotion, and genomics programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services ("Secretary") and the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ("Director"); (4) not less than $335,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out domestic HIV/AIDS, viral hepatitis, sexually-transmitted diseases, and tuberculosis prevention programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director; (5) not less than $60,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out environmental health programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director; (6) not less than $50,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out injury prevention and control programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director; (7) not less than $30,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount for public health workforce development activities, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director; (8) not less than $40,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount for the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health to carry out research activities within the National Occupational Research Agenda; and (9) not less than $40,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount for the National Center for Health Statistics: Provided further, That of the amount appropriated under this heading not less than $150,000,000 shall be available for an additional amount to carry out activities to implement a national action plan to prevent healthcare-associated infections, as determined by the Secretary, of which not less $50,000,000 shall be provided to States to implement healthcare-associated infection reduction strategies: Provided further, That of the amount appropriated under this heading $500,000,000 shall be used to carry out evidence-based clinical and community-based prevention and wellness strategies and public health workforce development activities authorized by the Public Health Service Act, as determined by the Secretary, that deliver specific, measurable health outcomes that address chronic and infectious disease rates and health disparities, which shall include evidence-based interventions in obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, tobacco cessation and smoking prevention, and oral health, and which may be used for the Healthy Communities program administered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other existing community-based programs administered by the Department of Health and Human Services. Of course, there is similiar stuff throughout the 647-page bill. Remember when Newt Gingrich and others were fighting Hillary Clinton's health care reform proposal? Gingrich's cry at that time was "Read the bill." He didn't have to spin it for people if he could just get them to read what was actually in Mrs. Clinton's proposal. Now Republicans are asking the same thing again: Read the bill. The only stimulus occurring from this is from a free hand. That CDC stuff has no place in any "stiumulus" package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 28, 2009 -> 11:26 AM) That CDC stuff has no place in any "stiumulus" package. B B B B B B B B B B B u t we have to have this NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I really dislike it when we mix bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 "Read the bill" is right. It pains me to see this turning into an excuse to feed at the trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jan 28, 2009 -> 12:11 PM) I really dislike it when we mix bills. That's been a big mantra I put on this board before. Truth in Legislation act. A bill should be self-explanatory. Transportation bills shouldn't include money for museums. And this stiumuls package should be at least segregated by area - energy, transportation, tax breaks, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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