IlliniKrush Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 24, 2008 -> 11:03 PM) Yeah...let it go. This man knows more about baseball than anybody on the planet and is never wrong. Same guy that said Buehrle threw to the wrong guy on the botched DP on the comebacker...give it up...he can't help you. His work is done here. dnozzle...... Man, Soxtalk really has gone way down hill on the baseball side of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 12:03 AM) Yeah...let it go. This man knows more about baseball than anybody on the planet and is never wrong. Same guy that said Buehrle threw to the wrong guy on the botched DP on the comebacker...give it up...he can't help you. His work is done here. dnozzle...... Feel free to jump in, I guess. I'd ask you to please let it go as well, but it probably wouldn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinningUgly85 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20fNZG-CuC4 NSFW language Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Aybar had the perfect opportunity to tag him but he threw it to someone else instead. Then he subsequently failed to get out of the way of a sprawling, falling backwards AJ who was attempting to turn around. Aybar could have just tagged him and it would have been gravy, but he passed it off and didn't change his direction enough. Young kid mistake. AJ has a right to his space on the basepaths... especially against a defender without a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (wilmot825 @ Aug 24, 2008 -> 02:14 PM) How ironic is it that the run-down interference call was on A.J. and was called by Doug Eddings? Just gave me a flashback to '05 vs. the Angels. This guy must have been raised a Sox fan lol or just has a man crush on "Billy Idol." All jokes aside, what a smart play by A.J. to win the game for the Sox. I think the more we watch him, the more likeable he becomes. Gotta love A.J. as long as it means that he isn't on the same crew as Eric Cooper and Dan Iassognia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oralsoxpodcast Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 This is why we love AJ and everyone else hates AJ. He helps us win games and he'll try anything to do it. Questionable call, yes but I think it was a judgement call. I can't believe that was Doug Eddings again! I didn't even realize that. lol. God love that man. And if we're linking awesome AJ stuff, then check out this A.J. parody song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 If the exact same call was made AGAINST the White Sox, there is not one person on here who would have posted it was the correct call. AJP and the White Sox got a huge break and they took advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 For anyone who thinks this is the right call: Pierzynski was asked if he knew the interference rule, which calls for the runner to be awarded a base if he bumps an infielder without the ball. Aybar didn't have the ball. "That was the first thing I thought of, to get somebody to get close enough to where I could touch them," Pierzynski said. "People go, 'How do you think of that that fast?' Well, if you're not fast [afoot], you have to think of a lot of things to try to get you out of bad baserunning." Trib He did it on purpose and admits it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 24, 2008 -> 09:36 PM) Do I need to? Everyone knows AJ stuck his arm out to try to initiate something, anything, to turn that situation around. He knew what he was doing, and got the benefit of a missed call on it. If you can't see that from watching the replay, I really can't help you. It's amazing how blindly biased some people can be towards the Sox, it really is. Just because he initiates contact, doesn't make it the wrong call. The fielder still is in the baseline, giving the baserunner the chance to make contact with him. If there is rule that states the baserunner can't initiate contact, I'd love to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 24, 2008 -> 05:21 PM) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Eddings You should have seen it before I edited it. Well this is still on his wikipedia page: He is thought to be the illegimate love child of Helen Keller and well-known Chicago White Sox broadcaster, Hawk Harelson, which may explain his knack for improperly ruling in favor of the White Sox and his inability to audibly announce his rulings on the field of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (wilmot825 @ Aug 24, 2008 -> 10:44 PM) Hey Cub fan, calm down. We are just excited that a call went our way and the great A.J. was behind it again. I find it funny that when people make a comment that goes against the Sox, they get labeled as a Cub fan. Anyways, his point was that it was the wrong call, which is probably was. If the situation was reversed this board would be in an uproar. However, I wont compain or apologize for the call since it did in fact help us win. Think of it as a makeup for the Cleveland game in the opening series that we got jobbed on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 It is not interference, it is obstruction: In baseball, when a fielder illegally hinders a baserunner, the fielder is guilty of obstruction. Baserunners are generally permitted the free privilege to run from base to base without being physically blocked or hindered by a fielder. The only time a fielder need not "get out of the way" of a baserunner is when the fielder is fielding or in possession of the ball. There need not be physical contact for obstruction to be called; rather, if a fielder causes the runner to alter his normal running path, he can be guilty of obstruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Cheap move? Sure. But it doesn't seem like the wrong call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 For an alternate reference point...how many Spurs fans are angry with Ginobili for being a legendary flopper? How many of them would give back their trophies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 24, 2008 -> 07:12 PM) Ump's absolutely terrible blown call hands us the game. Where's all the b****ing about umpiring conspiracies against the Sox now? Where are all you guys? Also, AJ's not really a hero, he made a terrible baserunning mistake to begin with and got the benefit of a brutal call by Eddings. Even at full speed, it was pretty obvious AJ threw his arm out trying to get some sort of contact as he was dead and not going to run anymore. I agree, one of the worst calls ever. This 'win' doesn't make me feel good, we got swept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 11:51 AM) I agree, one of the worst calls ever. This 'win' doesn't make me feel good, we got swept. It was a very bush league play by A.J., but this is ridiculous. First off, if that is called correctly, it's man on 1st 2 outs in a tied 10th inning for Jim Thome. To say we got "swept" when that would have been the situation is ridiculous. We might have got swept, just as Thome might have hit a home run for all we know. Second off, to not feel good about that win is equally ridiculous. We had a win stolen from us on opening day by the umpires, and yesterday if anything evened out a wrong from March 31st. Edited August 25, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 12:01 PM) It was a very bush league play by A.J., but this is ridiculous. First off, if that is called correctly, it's man on 1st 2 outs in a tied 10th inning for Jim Thome. To say we got "swept" when that would have been the situation is ridiculous. We might have got swept, just as Thome might have hit a home run for all we know. Second off, to not feel good about that win is equally ridiculous. We had a win stolen from us on opening day by the umpires, and yesterday if anything evened out a wrong from March 31st. I think we disagree on almost everything. I don't think AJ's play was bush league, it was a desperate, last resort and the umps blew it. You're right, there is no way of knowing what might have happened had it been called correctly. I felt relieved that we won, for me that's not the same thing as feeling good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 10:08 AM) I think we disagree on almost everything. I don't think AJ's play was bush league, it was a desperate, last resort and the umps blew it. You're right, there is no way of knowing what might have happened had it been called correctly. I felt relieved that we won, for me that's not the same thing as feeling good. Why do you believe the umps blew it? It was a borderline call that could've went either way. Regardless, if AJ is called out, Thome is still walked to get to Ramirez, then Ramirez's hit would've easily scored Dye from 2nd who would be running with 2 outs. Either way it was a nice come from behind win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (G&T @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 05:45 AM) For anyone who thinks this is the right call: Trib He did it on purpose and admits it. So he did on purpose what was wrong with what he did. He didn't leg whip the 3B or even step on his chest. He took a risk. The 3B needs to make the play and A.J. was smart enough to play it to his advantage what is wrong with that? To call it cheating or bush league is stupid. It worked and they won tip your cap. THese were the things that Cabrerra and Crede were unable to accomplish. He has a high baseball I.Q. and this team needs that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (RME JICO @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 12:27 PM) Why do you believe the umps blew it? It was a borderline call that could've went either way. Regardless, if AJ is called out, Thome is still walked to get to Ramirez, then Ramirez's hit would've easily scored Dye from 2nd who would be running with 2 outs. Either way it was a nice come from behind win. Borderline? C'mon. Was AJP impeded at all? He stuck his elbow out. He made contact and fell down doing so. It was a great play by him, but a horrific call. We will all take it, however. Maybe the worst, or best call of the year depending on who you are cheering for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandy125 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 11:31 AM) Borderline? C'mon. Was AJP impeded at all? He stuck his elbow out. He made contact and fell down doing so. It was a great play by him, but a horrific call. We will all take it, however. Maybe the worst, or best call of the year depending on who you are cheering for. I really don't see it as being much different from a batter who sticks his elbow out on purpose to get hit by a pitch. That happens all the time, and I don't think I've ever seen an ump not award 1st base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (vandy125 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 09:39 AM) I really don't see it as being much different from a batter who sticks his elbow out on purpose to get hit by a pitch. That happens all the time, and I don't think I've ever seen an ump not award 1st base. I believe it happened to Crede once in Oakland back in 05 I think. Twas pretty darn obvious when he did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (RME JICO @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 11:27 AM) Why do you believe the umps blew it? It was a borderline call that could've went either way. Regardless, if AJ is called out, Thome is still walked to get to Ramirez, then Ramirez's hit would've easily scored Dye from 2nd who would be running with 2 outs. Either way it was a nice come from behind win. If AJ had a decent chance of reaching a base safely without the 'obstruction', then I might make the same call. But he didn't, he was dead in the water, threw his arm out and then flopped. As far as what would have happened had he been called out, a play like that can also be a momentum killer that sux the life out of a team. Maybe the same thing happens, but maybe not. Keep in mind, I'm only reading the details and looking at video clips. I didn't get to see the emotion from the players after the game. Who knows maybe, hopefully, it was a huge win for them and they'll go on a tear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandy125 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 11:43 AM) I believe it happened to Crede once in Oakland back in 05 I think. Twas pretty darn obvious when he did it. Crede just needs to work on that twist away where you actually stick more of your body out over the plate then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (vandy125 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 09:45 AM) Crede just needs to work on that twist away where you actually stick more of your body out over the plate then. I don't think Joe should be twisting his back that much these days.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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