May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 21, 2009 -> 12:59 PM) There it is. End of the day it's all about the mean green. What I said awhile ago. You can forget about it. There is no way in hell JR approves a $22 mill contract.
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 21, 2009 -> 12:59 PM) There it is. End of the day it's all about the mean green. makes a ton of sense, if the AL/Cell was the real problem it would be a flat out denial right away. It will be interesting, but I don't the Sox will do it unless Pads throw in like 5 million to offset the bump in salary
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 21, 2009 -> 12:59 PM) There it is. End of the day it's all about the mean green. could we pick up the option but restructure the way it is paid out?
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 21, 2009 -> 11:00 AM) What I said awhile ago. You can forget about it. There is no way in hell JR approves a $22 mill contract. If they've gone this far, I don't know if its a deal breaker. Might just mean the Sox get some cash or give up a bit less in terms of prospects. Just my speculation, but given all of his past demands the Sox can't be shocked that he's asking for that and my guess is all of the comments and the stall tactics are pretty much him trying to gain leverage.
May 21, 200916 yr This is so gay if the deal falls through because we wouldn't guarantee his 2013 option.
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (dmbjeff @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:01 PM) could we pick up the option but restructure the way it is paid out? I think the union has to sign off
May 21, 200916 yr If its purely about money I think the Sox are tempted by it. 2013 is 4 years away, by then most of their big contracts will be off the books. They will have plenty of time to structure their payroll around Peavy's salary. But thats just how I think.
May 21, 200916 yr I am starting to wonder if this was just a move by KW to make it look like he is giving '09 the good ol' college try.
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (BearSox @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:02 PM) This is so gay if the deal falls through because we wouldn't guarantee his 2013 option. Classic BearSox. 2013 is f***ing 4 years away. Anything can happen with a pitcher. $22 million would cripple this franchise... even if he plays well. That's f***ing Manny money. If the Sox picked this up, I'd be livid.
May 21, 200916 yr I think the Sox had to see this coming.....its a common request when players waive a NTC. If we aren't prepared to guarantee that final year, I don't think discussions would even have begun. To me, this news is encouraging.
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:02 PM) If its purely about money I think the Sox are tempted by it. 2013 is 4 years away, by then most of their big contracts will be off the books. They will have plenty of time to structure their payroll around Peavy's salary. But thats just how I think. This just means no Thome, Contreras or Dotel. Which is pretty much what we agreed too all along.
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:02 PM) If its purely about money I think the Sox are tempted by it. 2013 is 4 years away, by then most of their big contracts will be off the books. They will have plenty of time to structure their payroll around Peavy's salary. But thats just how I think. it helps that he would be 31 that year and not mid 30's... I would imagine this has already been decided amongst the Sox brass, there's no way this caught them off guard, the thing that intrigues me is the "for starters" part
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:04 PM) Classic BearSox. 2013 is f***ing 4 years away. Anything can happen with a pitcher. $22 million would cripple this franchise... even if he plays well. That's f***ing Manny money. If the Sox picked this up, I'd be livid. It's a risk you gotta take if you want to get a true no. 1 pitcher.
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:04 PM) Classic BearSox. 2013 is f***ing 4 years away. Anything can happen with a pitcher. $22 million would cripple this franchise... even if he plays well. That's f***ing Manny money. If the Sox picked this up, I'd be livid. It's 1 year. I would do it.
May 21, 200916 yr $22M for Peavy in '13?? That would be insanity, not to menthat DeLuca said that was the START of sweeteners.
May 21, 200916 yr KW would not of started this unless he was all in............If true a glimmer of hope pick it up and let's get this deal done.
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (rangercal @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:58 PM) via deluca twitter I figured that back when the Cubs wanted him. That was probably the only team he wouldn't require the option picked up for. Honestly though, KW had to know that would be a condition. So I don't know if it's a deal breaker yet.
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (GREEDY @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:04 PM) I am starting to wonder if this was just a move by KW to make it look like he is giving '09 the good ol' college try.
May 21, 200916 yr QUOTE (rangercal @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:05 PM) It's 1 year. I would do it. Do it. Who knows what pitchers will be making in 2013. If the economy turns around, that wont be an unrealisitc deal for a pitcher of his caliber.
May 21, 200916 yr Remember....there's a $4 million buyout there as it currently stands.....so it would only be guaranteeing an additional $18 million (still not a bad salary for a true ace in todays game)
May 21, 200916 yr Well, it's not my money. But when you are all b****ing in 2013 that we can't put anything around Peavy... remember this.
May 21, 200916 yr this could be the PTBNL issue. Basically if Sox pick up the option and Pads send zero money then it's a lower quality prospect list, if the Pads send like 5 mil to make the average salary the same it's a better list
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