According to joesaiditstrue in the chat, the White Sox bullpen has done the following since the All-Star break:

 

In the last 35 games, the bullpen has given up atleast one run in 20 of them.

 

Williams has a lot of problems ahead of him.

More out than Elton John.

According to joesaiditstrue in the chat, the White Sox bullpen has done the following since the All-Star break:

 

In the last 35 games, the bullpen has given up atleast one run in 20 of them.

 

Williams has a lot of problems ahead of him.

he built it on aging arms. Although what the f*** is wrong with thornton i have no idea. Must just be a bad stretch.

he built it on aging arms. Although what the f*** is wrong with thornton i have no idea. Must just be a bad stretch.

He throws nothing but straight fastballs. I'm surprised it took so long for opposing teams to figure this out.

According to joesaiditstrue in the chat, the White Sox bullpen has done the following since the All-Star break:

 

In the last 35 games, the bullpen has given up atleast one run in 20 of them.

 

Williams has a lot of problems ahead of him.

That's a misleading stat. What about games where the starter was pulled in the 4th and the bullpen only gave up 1 more run the rest of the way? I'd call that a good job by the bullpen.

he built it on aging arms. Although what the f*** is wrong with thornton i have no idea. Must just be a bad stretch.

 

I thought I heard the Boston play by play guys say he's allowed only 3 runs over his last 17 IP???

That's a misleading stat. What about games where the starter was pulled in the 4th and the bullpen only gave up 1 more run the rest of the way? I'd call that a good job by the bullpen.

How misleading do you really think it is? Ok, so maybe instead of 20 it's 16 or 17. It's still suggestive of a terrible bullpen. And when you consider the games where the starters went 7-8 innings, and all the bullpen had was 3 - 6 outs, it shouldn't change your mind.

 

 

How misleading do you really think it is? Ok, so maybe instead of 20 it's 16 or 17. It's still suggestive of a terrible bullpen. And when you consider the games where the starters went 7-8 innings, and all the bullpen had was 3 - 6 outs, it shouldn't change your mind.

Did you honestly need that stat in the first place to tell you that the bullpen isn't all that good?

Well the Linebrink sucks mantra didn't just show up over night. He's been giving up a lot of runs for an eternity. And I can remember Jenks giving up some runs at least a couple of times on either side of the kidney stones issue. It's not been a good stretch for the BP, and when you consider that this is supposed to be a strength, there's trouble brewing, er exploding.

 

Well the Linebrink sucks mantra didn't just show up over night. He's been giving up a lot of runs for an eternity. And I can remember Jenks giving up some runs at least a couple of times on either side of the kidney stones issue. It's not been a good stretch for the BP, and when you consider that this is supposed to be a strength, there's trouble brewing, er exploding.

I stopped believing that myth 2 months ago.

Did you honestly need that stat in the first place to tell you that the bullpen isn't all that good?

Yes. I didn't know until joesaiditstrue told me. I've been listening to jphat.

Edited August 26, 200916 yr by Flash Tizzle

I'm going to the game Thursday. Hoping the Sox aren't facing a sweep. That'd be depressing after a long drive.

Am I in? Yes, but I don't think they can get the job done.

Oh I'm in...just not expecting too much and am not putting so much emotion in it anymore. I'll still watch and cheer...just not gonna let it effect my nights anymore.

 

These guys are a bunch of lollygaggers , but im still rooting.

After last night, I want to be out...but I'm a glutton for punishment. This team makes Tony sad

What does being in or out even mean?

What does being in or out even mean?

 

 

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heck yeah. i'm always in until we're mathematically eliminated. even then i'm technically in, the team just isn't.

This will be the most exciting finish of the past twenty years. With so many slumping, they are all going to turn it on and catch the Tigers in the second to last game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then lose in the first round while getting swept.

I'm in so far as I'm still rooting and hoping. I'm out so far as thinking the Sox can actually take the division. So I guess that just leaves me confused and frustrated. Very frustrated.

This will be the most exciting finish of the past twenty years. With so many slumping, they are all going to turn it on and catch the Tigers in the second to last game. [/color]

 

 

I hope you are right...that would be excellent. If they get hot to end the season, the sky is the limit in the post-season.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 26, 200916 yr by tonyho7476

That's a misleading stat. What about games where the starter was pulled in the 4th and the bullpen only gave up 1 more run the rest of the way? I'd call that a good job by the bullpen.

 

Even a game where the starter goes 6 and the pen gives up 1, still makes an era of 3.00.

 

I know the pen hasn't been good, but that is a terrible stat.

Oh I'm in...just not expecting too much and am not putting so much emotion in it anymore. I'll still watch and cheer...just not gonna let it effect my nights anymore.

 

 

what's your secret, and where can I buy some??

Even a game where the starter goes 6 and the pen gives up 1, still makes an era of 3.00.

 

I know the pen hasn't been good, but that is a terrible stat.

We're talking about the bullpen, not the staff as a whole. If the bullpen goes three inning and gives up 1 run, their earned run average is not 3.00.