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Arizona Fall League

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Brent Morel is pretty damn impressive.

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Good piece of hitting by Morel in that last AB. And heads-up base running to take 2nd on the miscue by the catcher.

Morel's really got a nice, compact swing.

Big sexy CJ with a BOMB to put the Javelinas ahead in the 8th. Absolutely murdered that ball, well done.

CJ!

 

2 Run Bomb in the bottom of the 8th to put our boys back on top.

CJ with a 2-run jack in the bottom of the 8th to put the Javelinas up 5-4!!!!

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Nice hit by CJ. Got all of that one.

 

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The Javelinas pitching staff has 14 strikeouts throughout 8 innings.

 

The other team (Devil Dogs) has... 4?

 

Hard to imagine that this game would even be close based on that stat.

 

 

Danks swings at a lot of first pitches huh

QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 04:26 PM)
The Javelinas pitching staff has 14 strikeouts throughout 8 innings.

 

The other team (Devil Dogs) has... 4?

 

Hard to imagine that this game would even be close based on that stat.

I read in the preview that Javelinas pitchers led the AFL in strikeouts, but were last in ERA.

Javelina's win the AFL league championship !

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RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!

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QUOTE (daggins @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 04:28 PM)
Danks swings at a lot of first pitches huh

 

Yep. Not just today. That's his regular pattern.

 

 

QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 02:28 PM)
I read in the preview that Javelinas pitchers led the AFL in strikeouts, but were last in ERA.

Just goes to show that K's wether in pitching or hitting aren't the end all be all stat.

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CJ with 3 RBIs in a 5-4 championship win... continuing to build up his reputation as a big game player.

Not sure about the dogpile after the game, but good for CJ. It's unbelievable how many times he comes through in those situations.

 

I like Morel's swing. Seems like a solid player.

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QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 04:36 PM)
Just goes to show that K's wether in pitching or hitting aren't the end all be all stat.

 

The team with the best ERA in the league (Phoenix Devil Dogs) had the second fewest strikeouts... but gave up the fewest walks.

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 02:39 PM)
Not sure about the dogpile after the game, but good for CJ. It's unbelievable how many times he comes through in those situations.

 

I like Morel's swing. Seems like a solid player.

 

really? I loved that dog pile. They're just kids having fun playing the game they love. Jordan's face was priceless, pure joy.

So do folks really believe Retherford/Morel are legitimate prospects?

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 05:26 PM)
So do folks really believe Retherford/Morel are legitimate prospects?

 

Depends what you mean by 'legitimate prospects'.

 

If you mean 'do they have a shot at getting called up to the major leagues someday'... then I think the answer is yes.

 

If you mean 'do they have a shot at sticking around for awhile in the majors in some role'... possibly.

 

If you mean 'will they become star players'... probably not.

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QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 05:34 PM)
Depends what you mean by 'legitimate prospects'.

 

If you mean 'do they have a shot at getting called up to the major leagues someday'... then I think the answer is yes.

 

If you mean 'do they have a shot at sticking around in the majors in some role'... maybe.

 

If you mean 'will they become star players'... probably not.

 

I guess the second one is what I'm asking. Just seems to me that although they've both had terrific years, neither has the skillset to make any impact in the majors. Doesn't matter, really. KW will deal them as soon as he gets the chance.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 05:38 PM)
I guess the second one is what I'm asking. Just seems to me that although they've both had terrific years, neither has the skillset to make any impact in the majors. Doesn't matter, really. KW will deal them as soon as he gets the chance.

 

Just following up on your earlier question...

 

 

Each of them has special attributes that should get them a shot if they continue to develop...

 

A. Both have nice simple swings (no hitches) and seem to hit the ball for both average and power.

 

B. Retherford can play multiple positions. That's a plus for him to get on and stick on a roster.

 

C. Morel is a plus defender at 3B.

 

 

The combination of their hitting and fielding attributes gives them a significant advantage over alot of other guys... for example, 1Bs and corner outfielders... who have to hit a ton to not be 'dime a dozen' types.

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Morel? Yes, I think he'll be a major league starter.

 

CJ? I don't see why he can't be a utility player. You can put him anywhere on the field, and he's not afraid to get a big hit. Do I think he'll ever be an everyday major league player? Probably not.

QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 05:34 PM)
Depends what you mean by 'legitimate prospects'.

 

If you mean 'do they have a shot at getting called up to the major leagues someday'... then I think the answer is yes.

 

If you mean 'do they have a shot at sticking around for awhile in the majors in some role'... possibly.

 

If you mean 'will they become star players'... probably not.

Why could Morel not be a star player?

 

I thought I just read that we drafted him because he has a "high ceiling" and were ecstatic to get him where we did?

 

As for the strikeouts thingie you guys were talking about, strikeouts in the mlb are far more relevant than in the minor leagues.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 06:30 PM)
Why could Morel not be a star player?

 

I'm not knocking him. He could turn out to be a very good major league player some day.

 

I'm just suggesting that the odds of a guy who hasn't played above A-ball yet being an MLB star are low and that the law of averages is working against him... just to make it to the majors... much less becoming a star.

 

Regarding where we drafted him, etc. Actually he was considered a reach in the 4th round... somebody who wasn't high on alot of teams boards and probably could have been picked up later in the draft. But so far, he's making the people who picked him look pretty good.

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