It's looking that way.

If they're going to give him that kind of money...then in a couple years, we can trade for him after he busts because they're expecting the impossible from a rookie and turn his career around/turn him into a W.S. winning pitcher.

If they're going to give him that kind of money...then in a couple years, we can trade for him after he busts because they're expecting the impossible from a rookie and turn his career around/turn him into a W.S. winning pitcher.

Something says giving this guy all that money, having him pitch in New York or Boston with all that pressure, isn't going to work out well. Then if he doesn't blow out his arm, pick him up for a has been and have them eat money. Jose Contreras Jr.

Something says giving this guy all that money, having him pitch in New York or Boston with all that pressure, isn't going to work out well. Then if he doesn't blow out his arm, pick him up for a has been and have them eat money. Jose Contreras Jr.

This guy cannot possibly succeed in New York or Boston with all that pressure. I have a feeling things just aren't going to work out for either party there. Hopefully Kenny will sweep in when his value is low and we can get him turned around in the lower pressure of the South Side.

Something says giving this guy all that money, having him pitch in New York or Boston with all that pressure, isn't going to work out well. Then if he doesn't blow out his arm, pick him up for a has been and have them eat money. Jose Contreras Jr.

Basically no matter who he signs with, he's going to be a rookie when he comes up and he's never going to have faced batters of the quality of MLB hitters. Even really good pitchers usually struggle their first year or two while they're developing; a guy coming from Cuba, that's going to be magnified, and even then, he'd have to pitch to the quality of a huge contract. Hell, look at the kind of performance the Red Sox got for their $20 million a year for Matsuzaka.

$40-60 million, THAT CRAZY TALK!

 

 

That's Peavy and Buerhle money and they are proven major league winners

That's Peavy and Buerhle money and they are proven major league winners

Furthermore, Chapman's performance in Cuba was far from flawless. He has great stuff, but he's very much a raw arm and even a bit of a project.

Furthermore, Chapman's performance in Cuba was far from flawless. He has great stuff, but he's very much a raw arm and even a bit of a project.

I remember watching him in the WBC and he got in trouble with the pitch count. He does have an electric arm, but he seems to have the traditional Cuban pitching behavior of pitching away from the bat a bit.

If I'm the Sox I offer a Viciedo type contract but loaded with incentives, to make everyone happy but nothing near what the Yankees and Red Sox will offer.

 

Though, ever since Jose fizzled out in NY, haven't these super Cuban prospects (Alexei, Viciedo) been speculated on getting big contracts from bidding wars and coming up with far less?

 

I just wish Torres was his agent, we'd have him wrapped up by now.

I don't believe he will get anywhere near 40-60 million most likely 20-25 million for 4 to 6yrs .

If I'm the Sox I offer a Viciedo type contract but loaded with incentives, to make everyone happy but nothing near what the Yankees and Red Sox will offer.

 

Though, ever since Jose fizzled out in NY, haven't these super Cuban prospects (Alexei, Viciedo) been speculated on getting big contracts from bidding wars and coming up with far less?

 

I just wish Torres was his agent, we'd have him wrapped up by now.

 

There also hasn't been a young pitcher with a 102 mph fastball come out of Cuba either.

Eh, either way, I don't see the sox nabbing him. And would the cardinals really spend that cash with Pujols contract looming ahead?

However, one major-league official told Newsday on Wednesday that Chapman's price would be closer to the $15.1-million deal that Stephen Strasburg, the top pick in this year's draft, received from the Nationals.

 

Newsday

Newsday

Now that would make sense.

So, that's 15 mil over 4 years or 15 mil per?

For 15-20 million, I can see the Sox being interested. For the 40 to 60 range, no way.

For 15-20 million, I can see the Sox being interested. For the 40 to 60 range, no way.

Absolutely.

 

But here's another scenario. With Jenks' a couple of seasons away from FA, if the Sox signed Chapman, would they groom him to be a their closer of the future possibly?

 

Or do you leave him as a starter, and only move him to the bullpen as a last resort?

Absolutely.

 

But here's another scenario. With Jenks' a couple of seasons away from FA, if the Sox signed Chapman, would they groom him to be a their closer of the future possibly?

 

Or do you leave him as a starter, and only move him to the bullpen as a last resort?

Always go starter first. Always.

Always go starter first. Always.

 

I agree. You can always find something else for the back of the pen, especially if you have seven or eight starters in your system.

Newsday

This makes a little more sense. If Chapman got $40-60 million while Strasburg "had" to sign for $15 million, b****ing about Boras anymore would be a joke. I still think the economy is going to play a huge role in the offseason. I think most teams will not have cash. In the NBA, I read something where someone with some inside knowledge thinks something major is going to happen by the end of the season, like 1-3 teams disbanding. Of course the NBA has priced many people out of their games.

This makes a little more sense. If Chapman got $40-60 million while Strasburg "had" to sign for $15 million, b****ing about Boras anymore would be a joke. I still think the economy is going to play a huge role in the offseason. I think most teams will not have cash. In the NBA, I read something where someone with some inside knowledge thinks something major is going to happen by the end of the season, like 1-3 teams disbanding. Of course the NBA has priced many people out of their games.

 

if you can find the link can you pm it to me?

if you can find the link can you pm it to me?

 

Yeah, post that if you could, I would really be interested in it.

This makes a little more sense. If Chapman got $40-60 million while Strasburg "had" to sign for $15 million, b****ing about Boras anymore would be a joke. I still think the economy is going to play a huge role in the offseason. I think most teams will not have cash. In the NBA, I read something where someone with some inside knowledge thinks something major is going to happen by the end of the season, like 1-3 teams disbanding. Of course the NBA has priced many people out of their games.

If Strasburg had been allowed to negotiate with all 30 teams he could have tripled that figure, easily. Chapman is nowhere near the pitcher Strasburg is, not even close. Chapman shouldn't get $40-60M at all, but the Yankees will have a ton of money available over the offseason and you can never count them out of a bidding war for a top international player. The Yankees have $13M for Damon, $13M for Matsui, $6.5M for Nady, $5.5M for Pettite, another $8.5M+ in spare parts like Gaudin, Hinske, etc., all coming off the books, plus Wang who made $5M is a non-tender candidate. They could have over $50M in departing contracts.

 

I agree in general that most teams will be out of cash.

So, no one answered me...

 

Strasburg's deal was 4 years 15 mil total?

 

i.e. 4 mil a year?

So, no one answered me...

 

Strasburg's deal was 4 years 15 mil total?

 

i.e. 4 mil a year?

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/w...tionals_01.html

 

4 years/$15.1M (2009-12)

signed Major League contract with Washington 8/17/09

$7.5M signing bonus

(paid in 3 installments of $2.5M, 9/1/09, 1/10/10, 1/10/11)

09:$0.4M (pro-rated), 10:$2M, 11:$2.5M, 12:$3M

Okay, that seems fine for an unproven free agent like Chapman.