November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (Wanne @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 12:17 PM) Hawk will be CRUSHED!!!! It's funny cause that too was my initial reaction.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 01:47 PM) Gomez hit .229/.260/.354/.614 against the Sox last season. to that Hawk says, "Don't tell me how many he hit, tell me when he hit them"
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 01:47 PM) Gomez hit .229/.260/.354/.614 against the Sox last season. Career vs sox: .317 .344 .504 .848 20% of his career RBI's have come against the SOX
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 01:53 PM) to that Hawk says, "Don't tell me how many he hit, tell me when he hit them" Singles early in July games?
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 01:53 PM) Career vs sox: .317 .344 .504 .848 20% of his career RBI's have come against the SOX Yeah he kicked our ass in '08 (we're the only team he hit that year) then did absolutely nothing against us last year. That's not much of a track record.
November 6, 200916 yr Horrible Trade for the Twins. Great for the Brewers cause they didn't want or need JJ and the Twins gave up there 3rd best player IMO.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (SockMe @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 02:09 PM) Mauer, Morneau, Gomez in order So you know nothing about the Twins?
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (SockMe @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 03:09 PM) Mauer, Morneau, Gomez in order Carlos Gomez is a horrendous baseball player. He is good defensively and sucks at everything else. He was bad on the base paths and was one of the worst hitters in baseball.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (SockMe @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 02:09 PM) Mauer, Morneau, Gomez in order Span? Kubel? Cuddyer?
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (Felix @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 02:12 PM) So you know nothing about the Twins? I thought I could leave it at this, but I can't. Carlos Gomez hit .229/.287/.337 last year with pretty good defense in CF. Because of the defense, he was better than a replacement player, believe it or not. He's a fantastic defensive player, but there is no way in hell anyone can actually believe he was their third best player. He was tied (with Jose Morales, who didn't even spend the full season in the majors) for the 8th highest WAR on the team, behind superstars like Nick Punto and Joe Crede. Also ahead of him were Mauer, Morneau, Jason Kubel, Michael Cuddyer and Denard Span. This list doesn't even include their pitchers, who would push Gomez back to at least the 11th or 12th most valuable player on the team last year. There is no possible argument you could make for Gomez being the third best player on that team. Unless you never watched or read anything about the Twins, and then happened to turn on the game where Gomez hit for the cycle. In that case, your opinion might be excused, but other than that.. well.. it's pretty amazing someone can be this foolish. Edited November 6, 200916 yr by Felix
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (SockMe @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 02:09 PM) Mauer, Morneau, Gomez in order Uh Joe Nathan?
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 02:24 PM) Span? Kubel? Cuddyer? Jason Kubel continues to be forgotten by casual baseball fans. He is a BEAST.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 02:43 PM) Guerrier? Young? I'd take Gomez over both.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 11:59 AM) Yeah he kicked our ass in '08 (we're the only team he hit that year) then did absolutely nothing against us last year. That's not much of a track record. And nothing against MLB last year.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (SockMe @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 12:09 PM) Mauer, Morneau, Gomez in order Kubel? Span? Cuddyer? And I'm just going to assume you aren't counting pitchers.
November 6, 200916 yr Great, now I have to dislike Hardy. He's gonna bat .300 have 25 homers and 100 rbi's now, haha.
November 7, 200916 yr Lol, someone else posted this on another board. So to review, the Twins traded the undisputed best pitcher in baseball, under 30 years old, and with a long history of abject domination, for the following: - Kevin Mulvey (waived, traded for Jon Rauch ) - Phil Humber (DFAed ) - Deolis Guerra (mediocre minor leaguer for the Fort Myers Miracle) - Carlos Gomez (traded away for JJ Hardy) This almost makes up for the Scott Kazmir trade. ...almost.
November 7, 200916 yr The Sox quite literally subsidized Gomez's batting average in '08 and without us spotting him about 30 or so points of his average on the year he would have been f***ing brutal in '08 just like he was in '09. In '09 he played just as bad against the Sox as he did against MLB so I think that about shattered the illusion that he was on his way to being a good offensive player.
November 7, 200916 yr QUOTE (SockMe @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 04:48 PM) same And what about all the other players on the Twins?
November 8, 200916 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 03:40 PM) Jason Kubel continues to be forgotten by casual baseball fans. He is a BEAST. I totally agree. Kubel is the type of player I wish the Sox had right now. Too bad we can never get him.
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