If that's the case, then a screen made of sapphire might finally justify the price tag of an iPhone (around $700 unlocked).

Aren't, other then the Nexus, most of the other phones about the same price unlocked. I know the S4 is somewhere between 600 & 700 depending on the carrier (retail).

Why cant they make a plasma larger than 65in? I dont f***ing get it. I dont really WANT an edge lit LED in my sports room.

Why cant they make a plasma larger than 65in? I dont f***ing get it. I dont really WANT an edge lit LED in my sports room.

 

I think because they're made of 2 panes of glass sandwiching the plasma gas they become too fragile at that size and prone to very easy breaking when people handle them.

I think because they're made of 2 panes of glass sandwiching the plasma gas they become too fragile at that size and prone to very easy breaking when people handle them.

And Panasonic is stopped production of plasmas in April. Dammit. I hate that LED's have "won", the picture quality just isnt there.

And Panasonic is stopped production of plasmas in April. Dammit. I hate that LED's have "won", the picture quality just isnt there.

 

Perception is reality ... a lot of people are convinced LED/LCD is higher quality than Plasma, so the manufacturers are making what they're buying. People view "Plasma" as old. They're wrong in every regard, but it is what it is.

 

It's exactly like VHS beating BetaMax, despite being of worse quality.

Aren't, other then the Nexus, most of the other phones about the same price unlocked. I know the S4 is somewhere between 600 & 700 depending on the carrier (retail).

 

Yes, for the most part. Smartphones are way too expensive for what they are.

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Perception is reality ... a lot of people are convinced LED/LCD is higher quality than Plasma, so the manufacturers are making what they're buying. People view "Plasma" as old. They're wrong in every regard, but it is what it is.

 

It's exactly like VHS beating BetaMax, despite being of worse quality.

Looks like all hope is in OLED.

 

My 6-7 year old plasma still owns every LED/LCD if ever bought or seen. I just invite over a friend to watch hockey and its evident.

 

I really want something 70in or above and it looks like ill be settling for the soap opera effect.

I wonder what this bad boy looks like

 

http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-WD-92742-...822&sr=1-38

Looks like all hope is in OLED.

 

My 6-7 year old plasma still owns every LED/LCD if ever bought or seen. I just invite over a friend to watch hockey and its evident.

 

I really want something 70in or above and it looks like ill be settling for the soap opera effect.

 

It's not only that, if you want to even get near Plasma quality at that size in LED, you're talking 3k+ price range.

It's not only that, if you want to even get near Plasma quality at that size in LED, you're talking 3k+ price range.

Thats what I'm guessing.

 

I emailed my AV guy about it, he said theres this great 4k technology tv I just saw, its better than plasma.

 

price tag?

 

30,000

I wonder what this bad boy looks like

 

http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-WD-92742-...822&sr=1-38

 

DLP's are very nice, the technology, while dated, produces a really amazing picture. I know, because before moving to Plasma, I owned one, and so did a friend of mine. The nicest thing about them is when the picture dims over years of usage, replacing the bulb puts it right back to brand new quality.

 

The problem with DLP's is they're not wall mountable, which is a nonstarter for a lot of people these days.

Thats what I'm guessing.

 

I emailed my AV guy about it, he said theres this great 4k technology tv I just saw, its better than plasma.

 

price tag?

 

30,000

 

The biggest issue with 4K's, and it will be in a issue for YEARS to come, is quantity of content available for it. Especially in digital formats, a movie will come in around 60-80gigs, depending on compression. That's a massive amount of data in terms of bandwidth AND storage for a single movie.

 

Yes, there will be some things available for it, but by and large, you'll find yourself watching 1080p content at probably a 99:1 clip. It will be a LONG time before mass quantity of 4k content exists, especially OTA/Cable/DTV. They JUST converted up to 1080i (not even 1080p), so it'll be eons before they upgrade to anywhere near 4k.

 

Amazon Prime and Netflix might support it, but that will be more for attention than usability due to storage and bandwidth limitations, not to mention throughput.

Thats what I'm guoutside ng.

 

I emailed my AV guy about it, he said theres this great 4k technology tv I just saw, its better than plasma.

 

price tag?

 

30,000

You can get 4k tvs 50+ inches for well under a grand now. But nothing really supports it outside PS4 (which really doesn't either).

You can get really really really really s***ty/low quality 4k tvs 50+ inches for well under a grand now. But nothing really supports it outside PS4 (which really doesn't either).

 

High quality 50" plasmas still cost 500-700$, so any 4K TV that costs less than 10 grand right now, is an incredible piece of s***.

Yes they are all off brand but still theoretically better than any standard plasma or led

Yes they are all off brand but still theoretically better than any standard plasma or led

 

The only thing they have of better quality is resolution.

 

But that's akin to the mhz race with microprocessors or the megapixel race with cameras.

 

3ghz is not always better than 2ghz.

 

20mp is not always better than 8mp.

 

The same applies to TV's. The image and color processors used in those off brand 4k tv's can barely support the resolution (if they can at all).

IMO 99% of consumers won't notice the slight difference in picture quality between the LED's and plasmas. The only way the normal person can really see it is if you have both set up in a room right next to each other. That's why LED won out.

 

IMO 99% of consumers won't notice the slight difference in picture quality between the LED's and plasmas. The only way the normal person can really see it is if you have both set up in a room right next to each other. That's why LED won out.

 

You won't notice a "quality" difference on slow moving things or static images...the resolution and color production is mostly the same.

 

However, ANY sport or fast moving image is instantly noticeable, as LED/LCD has to use tricks to keep up, while Plasma does not.

You won't notice a "quality" difference on slow moving things or static images...the resolution and color production is mostly the same.

 

However, ANY sport or fast moving image is instantly noticeable, as LED/LCD has to use tricks to keep up, while Plasma does not.

 

Yeah I still don't think the vast majority of people notice the difference (or really care). I have friends who have plasmas and I have LED's and while watching a game i've never thought "hey! that's so much better than my TV! I need one."

DLP's are very nice, the technology, while dated, produces a really amazing picture. I know, because before moving to Plasma, I owned one, and so did a friend of mine. The nicest thing about them is when the picture dims over years of usage, replacing the bulb puts it right back to brand new quality.

 

The problem with DLP's is they're not wall mountable, which is a nonstarter for a lot of people these days.

One of my tv's is a 7 year old DLP. Fantastic picture. My other is my plasma. Both have excellent pictures and all my friends family, rave about the pictures on my screens vs. the fancy LCD/LED ones that they have. None of them listened when I told them, buy plasma. DLP is a good solid tv, but again, if you want wall mount, you are out.

Yeah I still don't think the vast majority of people notice the difference (or really care). I have friends who have plasmas and I have LED's and while watching a game i've never thought "hey! that's so much better than my TV! I need one."

 

Unless you live with Plasma, you learn to live and not see the deficiencies.

 

I have 2 plasmas, and anytime I go to a friends house to watch a sport or something fast moving, I can immediately tell if they're have an LCD/LED.

 

A person who has never eaten a cheeseburger from anywhere other than Burger King will probably believe Burger King has the best burgers in the world, too.

 

They'd be wrong.

 

But they wouldn't know it.

 

The bigger issue here is the TV manufacturers are duping people into buying a more expensive product (LED/LCD), that is of lesser quality (than Plasma) in every regard. Now, if you want something > 65", you HAVE to go with LCD/LED, and that would be the only reason to do so. But if the size of your TV has a Plasma available, absolutely buy that, not only will it be far cheaper than a comparable quality LED/LCD, but it will be superior in image, color and motion quality.

...and to be sure, this may not always be true.

 

Given another 10 years to mature LED with the use of OLED screens, it's quite possible LED will be superior at some point. It's just not the case now.

IMO 99% of consumers won't notice the slight difference in picture quality between the LED's and plasmas. The only way the normal person can really see it is if you have both set up in a room right next to each other. That's why LED won out.

Watching sports or dark movies its very obvious. A golf ball shouldnt "skip" through the air, there should only be one hockey puck not three as its passed down the ice.

Watching sports or dark movies its very obvious. A golf ball shouldnt "skip" through the air, there should only be one hockey puck not three as its passed down the ice.

dark screens is a huge issue. If you're getting multiple hockey pucks and golf balls skipping you need to shut off the motion s***.

Who is your provider

 

What type of router do you have

 

Charter

 

And I have a Netgear N300