I wasn't going anywhere with that. I was just watching some highlights from last year (not 'the catch') and was just wondering what the D metrics said about him.

Good last year, bad in other years.

Apparently the A's are in serious talks with Gabe Gross. Given the already crowded Oakland outfield/DH situation adding Gross would seemingly take them out of the running for Johnny Damon. One less possible suitor, a little less competition, that price tag continues to drop.

Apparently the A's are in serious talks with Gabe Gross. Given the already crowded Oakland outfield/DH situation adding Gross would seemingly take them out of the running for Johnny Damon. One less possible suitor, a little less competition, that price tag continues to drop.

 

Phil Rogers think the Tigers are going to get Damon.

Phil Rogers think the Tigers are going to get Damon.

 

The guys on MLB Network's Hotstove show also predicted Detroit.

I know the Sox don't deal with Boras, but it wouldn't hurt just to put in an offer to Damon. 1 year, $5 million, and see if he takes it. If he's going to a place to try to win, he can do a lot worse than the White Sox, especially with the pitching staff pretty loaded this year.

On a side note: Ryan Sweeney was one of the best fielding RF in '09.

 

Sweeney would be my bet for the prospect most likely to bite us.

 

That's also fine by me since it seems like we won't need him in the future.

Sweeney would be my bet for the prospect most likely to bite us.

 

That's also fine by me since it seems like we won't need him in the future.

 

I'd go with Carter, but at least we got value for him. I think we'd be better off with Sweeney than Pierre though, hands down.

I'd go with Carter, but at least we got value for him. I think we'd be better off with Sweeney than Pierre though, hands down.

 

Yea, I was taking into account what we got, which discounts Chris Young (even if he does fix his abysmal average) because we got Javy who got us Flowers

 

Carter turned into Quentin

 

Sweeney turned into Marquez, Nunez, and Betemit.

Right now, Damon may be his own worst enemy. In an interview with Jon Heyman, Damon stated that "taking a 40% pay cut [from his $13 mill salary, which would be $7.8 mill.] didn't seem to be the right thing to do" back when the Yankees were offering him 2 years and $14 mill. Granted, this was before the Yanks signed Nick Johnson, and Damon wanted to see if he could get a better offer.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writ...ml?eref=writers

You wonder if he's finally accepted the fact that he probably will have to take a 50% cut in salary. Vlad certainly had to, with his $5 mill. deal. From the sounds of it, Damon might be insulted by a $5 mill. deal, something the Sox would offer. Most people think it's Boras giving him bad advice. But it's up to Damon if he wants to play in 2010 to accept the big pay cut--no matter how good his 2009 year was.

If Damon can be signed, then I really like the following lineup. It's so much more balanced 1-9 with him in there over Jones or Kotsay. Speaking of Jones and Kotsay (and even Vizquel), I think they are championship caliber bench players, and that's what I'd love for them to be on the 2010 White Sox.

 

Pierre LF

Beckham 2B

Damon DH

TCQ RF

Konerko 1B

Teahen 3B / AJP C

Rios CF

AJP C / Teahen 3B

Alexei SS

 

 

I could see him batting 3rd for us as you have above. Especially with Ozzie's love of flip flopping the lefties and righties. The one exra left handed hitter does make it much more balanced.

I could see him batting 3rd for us as you have above. Especially with Ozzie's love of flip flopping the lefties and righties. The one exra left handed hitter does make it much more balanced.

 

Actually a pretty solid lineup... With the pitching, I think we would have to be the favorites for the division.

You wonder if he's finally accepted the fact that he probably will have to take a 50% cut in salary. Vlad certainly had to, with his $5 mill. deal. From the sounds of it, Damon might be insulted by a $5 mill. deal, something the Sox would offer. Most people think it's Boras giving him bad advice. But it's up to Damon if he wants to play in 2010 to accept the big pay cut--no matter how good his 2009 year was.

Damon turned down a $6 million deal from the Yankees that he talked them into offering before they gave up on him and signed Winn. I think he may well wind up retired.

I think we'd be better off with Sweeney than Pierre though, hands down.

 

Hands down? Yeah those impressive 6 steals in 134 games for OAK last season really sets him apart and would fit perfectly into the 2010 philosophy. The Sox self-scout their own prospects VERY well.

They knew what they had in Sweeney and they dumped him.

I know the Sox don't deal with Boras, but it wouldn't hurt just to put in an offer to Damon. 1 year, $5 million, and see if he takes it. If he's going to a place to try to win, he can do a lot worse than the White Sox, especially with the pitching staff pretty loaded this year.

 

The Sox are hanging around the Damon dealings right now and have an offer in mind. Damon is out of a job, 3 weeks before Spring Training. His camp is still delusional looking for $7M right now from either ATL or DET but that likely isn't gonna happen. In the next couple weeks he may become a very real possibility for the Sox if they want to pursue it.

The Sox are hanging around the Damon dealings right now and have an offer in mind. Damon is out of a job, 3 weeks before Spring Training. His camp is still delusional looking for $7M right now from either ATL or DET but that likely isn't gonna happen. In the next couple weeks he may become a very real possibility for the Sox if they want to pursue it.

I think it's somewhat unlikely that; ATL or DET will meet whatever price Damon eventaully comes down to, or that Damon will come down to a level that the Sox would even consider him at without someone else grabbing him first.

I think it's somewhat unlikely that; ATL or DET will meet whatever price Damon eventaully comes down to, or that Damon will come down to a level that the Sox would even consider him at without someone else grabbing him first.

Apparently Damon is interested in getting into other areas of the baseball business. I think TBolt posted a snippet a month back or so that told the story of Damon supposedly being very interested in the Mariners GM job before Jack Zdruniejsfdkajdfjhjsdjkasdhjaskd took it...

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I think it's somewhat unlikely that; ATL or DET will meet whatever price Damon eventaully comes down to, or that Damon will come down to a level that the Sox would even consider him at without someone else grabbing him first.

 

He's already at a $5M market level. The question is will JR approve that cost or hold it for a mid-season upgrade? The latter is most likely.

 

I'm not saying Damon will sign here, I'm just seeing that he's on the radar now. The thing that complicated this is the tug-of-war BS that Ozzie and Kenny are in about this DH/playing time garbage. It will take them until mid-May until Kenny intervenes and upgrades the options, but he's probably not gonna do it soon.

He's already at a $5M market level. The question is will JR approve that cost or hold it for a mid-season upgrade? The latter is most likely.

As I said a moment ago, Damon turned down a 1/$6 offer less than a week ago.

As I said a moment ago, Damon turned down a 1/$6 offer less than a week ago.

 

And that deal dropped off the table when they signed Winn. Just because Damon foolishly rejected a $6M offer doesn't mean he's gonna get another at that cost.

The guys on MLB Network's Hotstove show also predicted Detroit.

 

Rodgers is an idiot. The Tigers GM has stated repeatedly that the Tigers are NOT interested in signing Damon.

Rodgers is an idiot. The Tigers GM has stated repeatedly that the Tigers are NOT interested in signing Damon.

 

Rogermetrics do not fail, regardless of what is bluntly stated.

 

Damon turned down a $6 million deal from the Yankees that he talked them into offering before they gave up on him and signed Winn. I think he may well wind up retired.

IIRC, $3 mill. was deferred, interest free. Media reports never stated how long the $3 mill was deferred for, though. In essence, it was for $3 mill. for 2010.

Is it the money or years for Damon?

 

I doubt he'd turn down 6 mil a year if it was 2/$12 contract.

Damon turned down a $6 million deal from the Yankees that he talked them into offering before they gave up on him and signed Winn. I think he may well wind up retired.

He's not going to retire. Half of that $6 million was deferred.

He's not going to retire. Half of that $6 million was deferred.

I think you're probably right, but it's hard to predict anything from him considering the manner in which he is behaving.