bighurt4life Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 8, 2010 -> 08:29 PM) Ya, but everone is just assuming it is easy to steal a base. Pierre is awesome and I think you might give him a shot to steal the base, but I understand the call too. It isn't just easy to steal a base, no matter how fast or good you are at it. And you can't just steal them on command either. that's my main reason for not disputing the bunt call, even though i personally would probably just let gordon swing away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandy125 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Stupid to bunt with one of your best hitters there. You need 1 more hit (unless you let your speed guy actually run). Why take the bat out of his hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Jones could have picked everybody up and been a hero with a single there. What's with the fly ball? Didn't he used to play in the NL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastymasty21 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 the problem with this ozzie ball is no one is capable of getting 2 out hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 (edited) So let's explore what could have happened there: Pierre on 1st, None Out. Pierre steals second, None out. Beckham bunts him to 3rd. One Out. IBB Quentin Paulie Sac Fly, we win. stupid. Edited April 9, 2010 by Reddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 8, 2010 -> 08:29 PM) It didn't work, so it's the wrong move. I still think it's on the players more than Oz but since it didn't work, Oz gets an F for the move. that doesn't make it the wrong move, just means that it didn't work this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnymick Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Our two best hitters were taken out of play last inning. Good teams even struggle when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 04:30 AM) Jones could have picked everybody up and been a hero with a single there. What's with the fly ball? Didn't he used to play in the NL? Have you ever seen Andruw Jones hit? He's not exactly a finesse hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Glad Randy got the first batter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 8, 2010 -> 10:31 PM) Have you ever seen Andruw Jones hit? He's not exactly a finesse hitter. he doesn't seem to be any type of hitter any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 8, 2010 -> 11:30 PM) Jones could have picked everybody up and been a hero with a single there. What's with the fly ball? Didn't he used to play in the NL? Wasn't he good, like, 5 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 and Randy Williams is pitching If this is the way to manage with the L/R thing, Kotsay should have hit for Jones. He either does it or does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 He may not be a finesse hitter, but is he capable of drilling a game winning single? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Apr 8, 2010 -> 11:31 PM) that doesn't make it the wrong move, just means that it didn't work this time Nope, still the wrong move. If we're going to bunt with our second best hitter, i suggest we be prepared to lose a lot of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 I dont like the bunt because I'd rather see run and hit called but why is every assuming there is a 100% chance JP steals 2nd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 04:32 AM) He may not be a finesse hitter, but is he capable of drilling a game winning single? Stephen Hawking is capable of a game winning single. When you start having to come up with these types scenarios, then you might need to realize it was a silly call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Huge K by Randy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 8, 2010 -> 11:29 PM) Ya, but everone is just assuming it is easy to steal a base. Pierre is awesome and I think you might give him a shot to steal the base, but I understand the call too. It isn't just easy to steal a base, no matter how fast or good you are at it. And you can't just steal them on command either. If you want to think about the %ages...from what I've read, the odds of scoring 1 run with a runner on 2b and 1 out is typically around 50%, slightly higher than the odds of scoring 1 run with a runner on 2b and 0 outs. If Pierre is a 75% stolen base guy, then he gives you a 75% chance of a runner on 2b and no outs. That has to push up the "scoring 1 run" rate by a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (zenryan @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 04:33 AM) I dont like the bunt because I'd rather see run and hit called but why is every assuming there is a 100% chance JP steals 2nd? I couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (nastymasty21 @ Apr 8, 2010 -> 10:30 PM) the problem with this ozzie ball is no one is capable of getting 2 out hits Our team sucks at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Apr 8, 2010 -> 08:33 PM) Nope, still the wrong move. If we're going to bunt with our second best hitter, i suggest we be prepared to lose a lot of games. your thinking is very black and white in this situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastymasty21 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 we need to end this before we need to bring in brink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 QUOTE (zenryan @ Apr 8, 2010 -> 11:33 PM) I dont like the bunt because I'd rather see run and hit called but why is every assuming there is a 100% chance JP steals 2nd? I don't like the bunt because their are 27 outs in a ballgame and every one of them is precious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 It might have been a silly call, but what manager would not have bunted there? I guess maybe somebody would have sent Juan on the first pitch, then bunted if he was successful on the first pitch steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 nice job Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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