June 28, 201015 yr What about a trade for Zambrano where the cubs would take on Linebrink+Teahan and a decent prospect or two and cover around half of his salary. He could be send into the bullpen for the year and figure out the rest next year. Am I crazyy? Edited June 28, 201015 yr by ChiSox420*
June 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (ChiSox420* @ Jun 27, 2010 -> 08:21 PM) What about a trade for Zambrano where the cubs would take on Linebrink+Teahan and a decent prospect or two and cover around half of his salary. He could be send into the bullpen for the year and figure out the rest next year. Am I crazyy? You are crazyy for thinking the Cubs would make that trade, yes
June 28, 201015 yr Plus there is no place for Zambrano. He would not start for us right now, nor would he unseat Jenks, Thornton, Putz, Pena or Santos in the pen. I'd have a problem making such a deal for a long reliever. Plus, don't be so ready to give up on Teahen after a bad couple of months.
June 28, 201015 yr How entertaining would it be to see Zambrano starting for the Sox and go apes*** on Quentin over a miscue in RF? Q would f***ing murder Zambrano in the dugout. Edited June 28, 201015 yr by IamtheHBOMB
June 28, 201015 yr I don't know why anybody would want Carlos Zambrano in the first place. He hasn't been good this year, he's been a glorified #2-3 starter the past 3 years (whose become progressively more injury prone), he's a lunatic, and he's never been good against the AL as it is (4.82 career ERA against the AL in 22 starts, 26 games total, 136.1 IP), and none of those reasons have anything to do with the fact that he's owed like $18 mill a year for the next 2-3 years. Carlos Zambrano is quite literally the last player I'd want to see traded to the White Sox right now.
June 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Jun 27, 2010 -> 08:33 PM) How entertaining would it be to see Zambrano starting for the Sox and go apes*** on Quentin over a miscue in RF? Q would f***ing murder Zambrano in the dugout. "He said what? One second." Headline Next Day: QUENTIN MURDERS ZAMBRANO WITH DEADLY STARE!
June 28, 201015 yr In Zambrano's past 46 starts, he is 14-14 with a 4.84 ERA. He is due about $19 million each of the next two seasons. Do you regret starting this thread yet?
June 28, 201015 yr #1, we don't need more starting pitching. #2 Zambrano isn't the Z of old. He was hitting 90-91 while he was out there against us. To put it another way, he was throwing as hard as Freddy Garcia. Unless there is something mechanical that can get him back to the middle 90's, he isn't worth it.
June 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (ChiSox420* @ Jun 27, 2010 -> 08:21 PM) What about a trade for Zambrano where the cubs would take on Linebrink+Teahan and a decent prospect or two and cover around half of his salary. He could be send into the bullpen for the year and figure out the rest next year. Am I crazyy? I don't think the White Sox would want the distraction, despite Guillen's relationship with Zambrano. Secondly, I'm not sure he's better than any of the Sox starters, and I certainly don't think the White Sox would rather have him for $9 million (assuming he makes around $18 million) over Garcia or Floyd, who are making much less. If the Cubs are successful at moving him, I think they may have to pick up even more than the $9 million. About the only thing I agree upon is that they will have to take back another team's garbage.
June 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 27, 2010 -> 08:29 PM) Plus there is no place for Zambrano. He would not start for us right now, nor would he unseat Jenks, Thornton, Putz, Pena or Santos in the pen. I'd have a problem making such a deal for a long reliever. Plus, don't be so ready to give up on Teahen after a bad couple of months. I'm not giving up on Teahan, he'll probably return to a primary role at 3B after he returns, but I hope next season, he's seen as reserve player.
June 28, 201015 yr You MIGHT take someone as polarizing as him, if he was the Zambrano of old that was pretty good. No way you screw your team up now with that mess, regardless of the deal. Unless it was for Randy Williams, then you think about it.
June 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 27, 2010 -> 10:49 PM) You MIGHT take someone as polarizing as him, if he was the Zambrano of old that was pretty good. No way you screw your team up now with that mess, regardless of the deal. Unless it was for Randy Williams, then you think about it. If he was pitching like the Zambrano of old, I don't think the Cubs would be looking to trade him, and, even if they were, they probably wouldn't be picking up any of his salary and wouldn't take back our garbage (for example, Linebrink).
June 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 27, 2010 -> 08:23 PM) You are crazyy for thinking the Cubs would make that trade, yes Then again they might say yes if the Sox took all of Z's contract. They have a lot of bad contracts. Don Cooper has admitted he doesn't want him. His immaturity is making Bradley to out to be a saint. I can't imagine any ML team taking him.
June 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 27, 2010 -> 10:53 PM) Then again they might say yes if the Sox took all of Z's contract. They have a lot of bad contracts. Don Cooper has admitted he doesn't want him. His immaturity is making Bradley to out to be a saint. I can't imagine any ML team taking him. The Cubs wouldn't want anything back if they found a team stupid enough to pay Zambrano's entire salary. The Cubs would be overjoyed to find a team willing to do that, but it won't happen.
June 28, 201015 yr 2004 - age 23, 160 ERA+ 2005 - age 24, 135 ERA+ 2006 - age 25, 136 ERA+ 2007 - age 26, 117 ERA+ 2008 - age 27, 118 ERA+ 2009 - age 28, 119 ERA+ 2010 - age 29, 78 ERA+ (only 9 starts) See a pattern here?
June 28, 201015 yr There are only 3 Cubs I would love to have on the sox. Zambrano is not one of them.
June 28, 201015 yr Zambrano's stuff looked as bad as Randy Williams' the other day. If I didn't know better I'd think he was trying to feed meatballs to Oz's Sox. No thanks on that guy. He's toast.
June 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 28, 2010 -> 02:29 AM) Plus, don't be so ready to give up on Teahen after a bad couple of months. It's been 2 and a half years since Teahen was even a half decent player. I think it's acceptable to have given up on him.
June 28, 201015 yr There are like a dozen reasons not to do this. The only reason TO do it that I can think of is that he's Ozzie's buddy. And now that I type that, I'm not sure that's a good reason either. No thank you.
June 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 28, 2010 -> 08:57 AM) There are like a dozen reasons not to do this. The only reason TO do it that I can think of is that he's Ozzie's buddy. And now that I type that, I'm not sure that's a good reason either. No thank you. If he was costing us $2 million a year, and it didn't cost us anything I cared about to get him, I'd do it. Nothing more. I wouldn't care about that buyout if he melted down again.
June 28, 201015 yr The only way I would even think about it is if the Cubs offered him and his entire contract for Linebrink or some s*** like that. Zambrano is a nutcase and not a good teammate. You think he'd be happy in a bullpen role? Yeah, he wants to win, but he's got more than a few screws loose in his head. He could only hurt the clubhouse.
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