BearSox Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Is Bobby Jenks our version of old Todd Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Daniel Haigwood (sp?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 10:40 PM) And on this one, you and I ganged up and said that the team was going to regret it. Â My favorite was when he was be supporting all of this nonsense on the radio, and someone called him up and asked him how often does a team acquire hitting during the season that actually helps them out. He couldn't think of anyone, but he attacked the caller by saying just cause it hasn't happened, it doesn't mean it won't and then went on to say that the DH position wouldn't make or break the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 05:40 PM) And on this one, you and I ganged up and said that the team was going to regret it. And about 20 other posters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 05:40 PM) Ok. I wasnt sure if the PTBNL in that trade was Gio or that other lefty (forget his name, had really good numbers in the minors but wound up doing nothing). Â Haigwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 If Trout is in that deal, then I say the Diamondbacks did well. Still. Joe Saunders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 93-94 mph straight fastballs at the knees = good swing by hitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 06:41 PM) The rotating DH probably could work... if the guys you are using don't suck like Kotsay and Jones do... Really, it's not working that well for the Twins frankly. They're getting offense out of it...but it has wound up forcing them to put guys like Kubel and Cuddyer in the field because they want to get Thome's bat into the lineup. Â The teams that the DH spot are working well for...Boston, Texas. KC, Baltimore to some extent...teams with everyday DH's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 05:43 PM) If Trout is in that deal, then I say the Diamondbacks did well. Still. Joe Saunders? It would turn it into a good trade for the D-Backs, but I doubt Trout is the guy. You usually never see a centerpiece of the deal marked as a PTBNL unless they have to do that for bureaucratic reasons (and I don't believe there are any for Trout such as injury, or draft date, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Not sure what that 89mph pitch was...good location! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 05:45 PM) Really, it's not working that well for the Twins frankly. They're getting offense out of it...but it has wound up forcing them to put guys like Kubel and Cuddyer in the field because they want to get Thome's bat into the lineup. The teams that the DH spot are working well for...Boston, Texas. KC, Baltimore to some extent...teams with everyday DH's. Its certainly not ideal but if they are hell bent on using the rotating DH they should at least get guys who can freakin hit and hit for power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 AJP really struggling catching/throwing today. Looks like he has a very long night last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 06:45 PM) It would turn it into a good trade for the D-Backs, but I doubt Trout is the guy. You usually never see a centerpiece of the deal marked as a PTBNL unless they have to do that for bureaucratic reasons (and I don't believe there are any for Trout such as injury, or draft date, etc.). Usually the PTBNL's...unless it's bureaucratic reasons as you note, are mid-level type guys that you think you could benefit from more scouting, since you can only not name them for 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 10:46 PM) Usually the PTBNL's...unless it's bureaucratic reasons as you note, are mid-level type guys that you think you could benefit from more scouting, since you can only not name them for 6 months. Â Yep, which means it's not one of their numerous draft picks from this past draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 06:46 PM) Its certainly not ideal but if they are hell bent on using the rotating DH they should at least get guys who can freakin hit and hit for power. Jones and Thome would actually have been an ideal setup. Put Jones in the OF every time you have a LHP on the mound, use him to get extra rest for all 3 of your OF's by sliding them in at DH, you make up a bit on defense for the offense you sacrifice, and you do exactly what Thome needed; fewer at bats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I highly doubt Trout is the PTBNL. Seeing that trade makes me dissapointed Kenny wasn't after him. I would have traded Hudson + Viciedo for Haren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 06:48 PM) I highly doubt Trout is the PTBNL. Seeing that trade makes me dissapointed Kenny wasn't after him. I would have traded Hudson + Viciedo for Haren. Neither of them are "Established major leaguers" and it sure seems like that was the selling point for Arizona here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 11:48 PM) Jones and Thome would actually have been an ideal setup. Put Jones in the OF every time you have a LHP on the mound, use him to get extra rest for all 3 of your OF's by sliding them in at DH, you make up a bit on defense for the offense you sacrifice, and you do exactly what Thome needed; fewer at bats. Â We should have kept Thome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Passan says Trout is not PTBNL. Â Really, if that's the deal the D'Backs got, how the hell couldn't the Sox top that. Â Hudson projects to be about as good as Saunders this year, which is very mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Ugh, no way Jones should be facing Wuertz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 06:49 PM) We should have kept Thome Yup. And it's been obvious since last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 06:50 PM) Ugh, no way Jones should be facing Wuertz. YEah, we have that other rotating DH to come in...what's his name...Thome? We brought him back right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 Ken_Rosenthal  #Diamondbacks official says two of three prospects are "outstanding" - Corbin and PTBN. #MLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 11:50 PM) Passan says Trout is not PTBNL. Â Really, if that's the deal the D'Backs got, how the hell couldn't the Sox top that. Â Hudson projects to be about as good as Saunders this year, which is very mediocre. Â Â It's not the the Sox couldn't top something like that it is wether they would want to or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 We've seen some of the worst check swing foul balls in this game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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