why? don kelly has been hitting the ball well, miggy hasn't.

miggy is the best hitter in the american league. i easily pitch around him to get to a hot journeyman any day of the week. i blast ozzie all the time, but not on that move there.

Every 10-15 games, the White Sox just have one of these horrible defensive efforts across-the-board.

 

haven't seen this yet, just the one terrible play by kotsay that led to 4 unearned runs.

miggy is the best hitter in the american league. i easily pitch around him to get to a hot journeyman any day of the week. i blast ozzie all the time, but not on that move there.

 

Agreed completely, if Kotsay wasn't a mediocre defensive player, that inning never happens. Of course, pitching Harrell in a meaningful game is a recipe for disaster. 5th starter is now a huge concern going forward.

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he can follow guillen to the marlins

 

That would be AMAZING...can we trade Ozzie for Logan Morrison?

Agreed completely, if Kotsay wasn't a mediocre defensive player, that inning never happens. Of course, pitching Harrell in a meaningful game is a recipe for disaster. 5th starter is now a huge concern going forward.

 

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Don't get Greg excited! BTW, Garcia with nearly a 6 ERA since the ASB. It's funny how people still try to argue how great the Sox staff is compared to the Twins.

haven't seen this yet, just the one terrible play by kotsay that led to 4 unearned runs.

 

 

1) Teahen just had a horrible reaction to a ball that Vizquel would have stopped. Scores on Damon's homer. One run.

 

2) Kotsay's error opened the floodgates. 4 runs

 

3) Quentin threw needlessly to the plate instead of holding the runner at first...so when Ramirez had that play deep in the hole, he has a legit shot to get the runner coming from 1st to 2nd...except that runner was at 2nd instead, leaving no outs available around the diamond. Ramirez did save one run on that play, but it obviously wasn't enough with Harrell hanging breaking balls out there. 2-3 runs (contributory negligence)

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It's funny how people still try to argue how great the Sox staff is compared to the Twins.

 

Indeed.

1) Teahen just had a horrible reaction to a ball that Vizquel would have stopped. Scores on Damon's homer. One run.

 

2) Kotsay's error opened the floodgates. 4 runs

 

Simply put, we didn't have a good enough lineup or starting pitcher to beat a good starter in Verlander tonight. Hopefully PK comes back soon, we really need some power in the lineup for those games when we can't string together 12 hits.

Indeed.

 

 

I remember Rongey dismissing the Twins' staff maybe 6-8 weeks ago and knew he would end up eating those words.

 

Of course, in the end, it will always be about our pitching, lol.

 

 

So basically, no Konerko, no Beckham, no Garcia...not good. Although SUPPOSEDLY Konerko could have played tonight.

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1) Teahen just had a horrible reaction to a ball that Vizquel would have stopped. Scores on Damon's homer. One run.

 

2) Kotsay's error opened the floodgates. 4 runs

 

3) Quentin threw needlessly to the plate instead of holding the runner at first...so when Ramirez had that play deep in the hole, he has a legit shot to get the runner coming from 1st to 2nd...except that runner was at 2nd instead, leaving no outs available around the diamond. Ramirez did save one run on that play, but it obviously wasn't enough with Harrell hanging breaking balls out there. 2-3 runs (contributory negligence)

meh, i don't think that qualifies as a meltdown my friend

Pena will get Garcia's next start it seems. Makes sense with Ozzie holding off on using him in the 3rd.

And Josh Fields is 4/10 for KC. Hitting 5th. Still has managed 3 K's in 10 AB's.

 

At least maybe he can help the abysmal Royals beat the Twins once.

it was a stretch to beat verlander with freddy on the mound. I'm fine with taking 3 of 4 in detoilet.

Maybe we'll get to see Infante and Morel and Flowers tonight!

It's like Ozzie has a machine in the dugout. Two outs. Man on first. Must try to steal second, even if down by 5.

It's like Ozzie has a machine in the dugout. Two outs. Man on first. Must try to steal second, even if down by 5.

it's not like you need baserunners....wait

That's just terrible baseball. Stop it!

okay you ozzipologists, let me hear ya...tell me once again how kotsay > thome

Ozzipologists will never admit that he even ever makes mistakes, let alone that he is an awful manager. The Kotsay thing is such an abortion, he should be non-stop booed every time he's on the field. He flat out sucks.

And Josh Fields is 4/10 for KC. Hitting 5th. Still has managed 3 K's in 10 AB's.

 

At least maybe he can help the abysmal Royals beat the Twins once.

He was a star when he was playing out the string with the White Sox.

it was a stretch to beat verlander with freddy on the mound. I'm fine with taking 3 of 4 in detoilet.

 

 

No matter how you slice it, if the Sox are more than 3 games down in the lost column by next tuesday, forget it

meh, i don't think that qualifies as a meltdown my friend

 

It is when we have no Konerko/Beckham and Harrell/Garcia on the mound against Verlander. Well, it's all semantics, maybe it was a bit of hyperbole, but let's just say if the defense makes all those plays the White Sox still have only about a 20% chance of winning with this line-up and Harrell pitching and on the road.

 

 

How many bad jumps has Juan Pierre gotten this year? Jeez.

Although SUPPOSEDLY Konerko could have played tonight.

Ozzie is saving him for an important game

Maybe we'll get to see Infante and Morel and Flowers tonight!

 

So either make it close or get blown out...because that 4-6 run deficit creates a really boring game and prevents us from seeing what Infante, Flowers, Viciedo and Morel can do.

How many bad jumps has Juan Pierre gotten this year? Jeez.

 

Pierre would have 25 CS if not for his ability to slide