The same Paul Konerko that was the best fastball hitter in the majors?

 

Eh, I thought you were talking about Thome in there.

I'd be willing to bet that Crawford wouldn"t sign with the Sox even if they were the highest bidder.

 

Most players follow the money.

 

Crawford hit 19 homeruns this year.

 

Not to mention 43 doubles/triples. A slugging % of .495. That's hardly "slappy."

How does Crawford's defense help as a CF. Moving him to CF and Rios to RF may be good or bad. I'd like to also see how Crawford projects as a RF although he would be back in LF after next year.

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I'd be curious to hear which of the top free agents that we bid on, should we have outbid the top bidder for? Should we have went higher for Torii Hunter?

How does Crawford's defense help as a CF. Moving him to CF and Rios to RF may be good or bad. I'd like to also see how Crawford projects as a RF although he would be back in LF after next year.

 

There's really not much to go by. He's started a grand total of 47 games in CF in his career. His arm sure as hell wouldn't play in RF. And I'm pretty sure Crawford wouldn't want to play any other position besides LF anyway.

Losing Quentin and Konerko and replacing them with Crawford does not sound like a good idea. I love the people that say the White Sox are cheap yet they can have a $100M while being cheap.

 

Do they want Crawford, I am sure they do. Will they overpay to get him, no. Will Sox fans be pissed that they did not overpay, yes.

 

I am really glad they did not sign Hunter, Fukodome and Alphonso Soriano, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

They are not cheap but certainly not in the elite tier of teams financially. I think a better word is financially mismanaged. We have some bad contracts as of right now. Peavy, Liney, Teahen, Pierre, etc. In order to have high priced players you also need low priced talent from the minors to contribute. We lack in theat area outside of a few guys.

I thought Rios was fine, but apparently Ozzie projects him more as a RF.

Ozzie.....ugh!

Losing Quentin and Konerko and replacing them with Crawford does not sound like a good idea. I love the people that say the White Sox are cheap yet they can have a $100M while being cheap.

 

Do they want Crawford, I am sure they do. Will they overpay to get him, no. Will Sox fans be pissed that they did not overpay, yes.

 

I am really glad they did not sign Hunter, Fukodome and Alphonso Soriano, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

Hudson for Jackson, getting Manny is not something cheap teams do. Kenny crying poor is getting old. I wouldn't be too shocked if they did spend a little more money and give this group one more shot.

I like that the Sox don't like long term contracts. The Sox offered Fukadome more money than the Cubs but he wanted to play at Wrigley. Cub fans are still waiting.

 

Has it occured to anyone, through all the anger, that PART of the reason we fall short on free agents is that the team is willing to pay what they see as the value of the player, and not overpay? That its an organizational philosophy? Because I find that much more likely than the idea that they do it for publicity. This team has been upper echelon in payroll for 5 seasons in a row now, its not like they don't spend money, so it seems silly to try to "fake" interest in signing people.

 

People here seem to be letting their frustrations with the results of 2010 color their judgment. The whole publicity stunt thing just doesn't make sense.

 

If they're smart enough to know not to overpay, then they're smart enough to know that you can't get the stud free agents by offering a "fair" contract. You overpay to get these guys. That's how you get them.

Losing Quentin and Konerko and replacing them with Crawford does not sound like a good idea. I love the people that say the White Sox are cheap yet they can have a $100M while being cheap.

 

Do they want Crawford, I am sure they do. Will they overpay to get him, no. Will Sox fans be pissed that they did not overpay, yes.

 

I am really glad they did not sign Hunter, Fukodome and Alphonso Soriano, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

I'd like to know where the White Sox stand in comparison to the rest of the league in terms of payroll (the amount they're paying, not including money that's being covered by other teams). I have a feeling they're closer to the middle of the pack than the top.

 

I'm not saying they're cheap exactly, but I don't think they spend an especially high amount. $100 million sounds like a ton, but I'm starting to think that quite a few other teams are in that range.

Not only are they going to have to let go of Konerko but likely trade Buerhle as well to make this possible. But damn i love Carl Crawford

Crawford hit 19 homeruns this year.

 

 

Not to mention 43 doubles/triples. A slugging % of .495. That's hardly "slappy."

That's why he's king of the slappies.

Haha this is great. And the sox made a play for Halladay, made a bid for Arod, etc etc. Just another name anyone would want but the sox will never make a real splash for.

Haha this is great. And the sox made a play for Halladay, made a bid for Arod, etc etc. Just another name anyone would want but the sox will never make a real splash for.

 

lol. Totally forgot about Halladay and the "Greatest rotation in history" fluff from KW.

I'd like to know where the White Sox stand in comparison to the rest of the league in terms of payroll (the amount they're paying, not including money that's being covered by other teams). I have a feeling they're closer to the middle of the pack than the top.

 

I'm not saying they're cheap exactly, but I don't think they spend an especially high amount. $100 million sounds like a ton, but I'm starting to think that quite a few other teams are in that range.

Im pretty sure the sox are at something like $74 before arbitration eligible players such as Jenks, Danks, CQ, Pena and before Free Agents, Putz, Vizquel, Konerko, and AJ. Bringing back all your arbitration guys your still at something like $92M before you have addressed vacancy at Catcher, 1B, Bullpen, and DH. Yikes, looks like something has gotta give here cuz we are not a $125M payroll team.

 

 

Im pretty sure the sox are at something like $74 before arbitration eligible players such as Jenks, Danks, CQ, Pena and before Free Agents, Putz, Vizquel, Konerko, and AJ. Bringing back all your arbitration guys your still at something like $92M before you have addressed vacancy at Catcher, 1B, Bullpen, and DH. Yikes, looks like something has gotta give here cuz we are not a $125M payroll team.

 

Yet some don't understand why the Jackson/Hudson trade didn't make a lick of sense.

Yet some don't understand why the Jackson/Hudson trade didn't make a lick of sense.

 

The Sox have known they aren't gonna bring PK back for a while and Jackson is in the mix for 2011 -what the team knows is their last push before a new influx and a likely fall from contender.

Ozzie.....ugh!

 

I don't believe anyone with the Sox thinks Rios is not the answer in CF for several more years. He's been good out there for the most part.

The Sox have known they aren't gonna bring PK back for a while and Jackson is in the mix for 2011 -what the team knows is their last push before a new influx and a likely fall from contender.

 

They have? Do you know something we don't?

I remember reading an article if the Yankees do go after Crawford, either Granderson or Swisher will be dealt. More than likely Granderson since the Yanks value OBP. (Gardner to CF)

Granderson would be a nice pickup; but, we have no Austin Jackson to trade.

Granderson would be a nice pickup; but, we have no Austin Jackson to trade.

I would think the Yanks would be looking for pitching more-so than a position player. They aren't in the same boat as the Tigers were who had to shed payroll and trade players in their prime (or established vets) to get cheap, younger guys.

Yet some don't understand why the Jackson/Hudson trade didn't make a lick of sense.

How can it not make a lick of sense? Sure it was a pretty awful trade to make but it was to give us a better shot at winning it this year. If Don Cooper is telling everyone he sees the flaw in Jackson and can tweak some things how does that not give us a good shot at winning the division this year? I don't think anyone in Sox management felt good about Hudson being in the rotation for a division race.

 

Admittedly it was a long shot but we were at or near first place at the time and Hudson seemed like a risk to have in the rotation at the time. Kenny took a gamble for this year and it obviously didn't pay off. This whole thing of "not making any sense whatsoever" is a complete farce. Yes it made sense but it was a long shot, was short-sighted, and it didn't payoff.

How can it not make a lick of sense? Sure it was a pretty awful trade to make but it was to give us a better shot at winning it this year. If Don Cooper is telling everyone he sees the flaw in Jackson and can tweak some things how does that not give us a good shot at winning the division this year? I don't think anyone in Sox management felt good about Hudson being in the rotation for a division race.

 

Admittedly it was a long shot but we were at or near first place at the time and Hudson seemed like a risk to have in the rotation at the time. Kenny took a gamble for this year and it obviously didn't pay off. This whole thing of "not making any sense whatsoever" is a complete farce. Yes it made sense but it was a long shot, was short-sighted, and it didn't payoff.

 

It made sense only in that Jackson has been around a few years and Hudson is a rookie. So it was just automatic to naturally think Jackson could help more. It sure as hell couldn't have been based on Jackson's performance to that point. Yes, I know. Coop saw something he could fix. Yadda, yadda. Then Coop should be put on notice (I know he won't be) if Jackson doesn't have a career year next year.

Edited October 9, 201015 yr by Jordan4life