December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 07:11 AM) RIP Mr. Santo. Listening to the Cubs lose on the radio won't be the same without you. This just became my FB status, with a 'hat tip' to you of course. Thanks.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 07:26 AM) RIP Santo Condolences to the Cubs & their fans Never a fan personally, but anyone that passionate about the game is great for the game overall and will be sadly missed. Nice post! Totally agree!
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 08:57 AM) B & B should be an interesting listen this afternoon. I look forward to it. i know they wont "sugar coat" Santo.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 10:32 AM) I look forward to it. i know they wont "sugar coat" Santo. At the same time, Terry is just getting back from a death in his family. I am interested in seeing if his attitude changes.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (G&T @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 10:02 AM) At the same time, Terry is just getting back from a death in his family. I am interested in seeing if his attitude changes. Who died? i head something about a death, but i didnt hear them say who.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 07:25 AM) Nice post! Totally agree! I second it. RIP Mr. Santo. You were an great baseball player and an asset to the game of baseball!!
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 10:05 AM) Who died? i head something about a death, but i didnt hear them say who. Never mind, found it... Deepest condolences to WSCR-AM's afternoon host, Terry Boers. Terry's daughter-in-law, Traci Helphrey Boers shockingly passed away. She had come down with a sudden illness last week and passed away this week at the much too young age of 36. She was grade school teacher and married to Terry's son John. The couple had three small children together.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 10:05 AM) Who died? i head something about a death, but i didnt hear them say who. I believe it was his daughter in law.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 08:51 AM) To me, this is my #1 standard for the HOF. I know people like to compare guys across different eras, but you can't do that effectively. If you were to take pitchers from this generation, and compare them to guys in the 60's no guy of the 90's/00's would make it. The opposite would be true of hitters. It is all about a players relative level of dominance during their playing time. RIP Ron, he was one of the more entertaining broadcasters and his passion for the game was undeniable. I don't agree that the #1 criteria should be that a player was dominate at a position. There isn't a wing in the HOF for the best 3B, 2B or SS. It should be for the most dominate players. I personally didn't see him play until the end of his career so I don't have an opinion either way. but he should be judged on if he was a dominate player in the league not just if he was the best 3B at the time.
December 3, 201015 yr I actually worked on a promotional tour of This Old Cub through a few midwestern minor league stadiums when I was in high school. Ron Santo was there and I did talk to him every once and a while. I told him I was a White Sox fan and after congratulating the team for winning the WS he kind of teased me for working on the tour for the movie. He was a really nice guy, positive to a fault but you couldn't help but admire him for it. Sad news this morning man.
December 3, 201015 yr Based on old HOF standards, he is borderline. But these days, with guys like Rice and Dawson in, Santo certainly makes the cut. With no Veteran's Committee election this year, i think he loses out on that sympathy vote potential. Always sad when these old baseball guys go. Niehaus a few weeks ago here and now Ron. RIP
December 3, 201015 yr Sad day for the Cubs and their fans. Maybe this can get Santo into the Hall. He probably should have been in long before this though.
December 3, 201015 yr I am not going to lie and pretend that he was a good announcer, because he was terrible in my opinion, but it can't be denied that he loved the Cubs and he was very enthusiastic about the team.
December 3, 201015 yr Looked up Santo's lifetime stats, .277 BA, 342 HR, 1331 RBI, .954 FLD%, ROY, 9 time all star & 5 time GG. I'd certainly take that for a career.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 09:08 AM) I second it. RIP Mr. Santo. You were an great baseball player and an asset to the game of baseball!! Right on. I remember his rookie year. I hated him as a Cub. I was at Comiskey Park for opening day in 1974 and saw his White Sox debut.....ugh. but, I was kinda excited about what he may have brought to the Sox though that didn't work out very well. There was Ron Santo Pizza though, that was pretty good. I have to admit that I loved his enthusiasm and love for the game. For that I will surely miss him. As for the HOF, when Brooks Robinson went in, Santo should have too, in my opinion.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 09:50 AM) Right on. I remember his rookie year. I hated him as a Cub. I was at Comiskey Park for opening day in 1974 and saw his White Sox debut.....ugh. but, I was kinda excited about what he may have brought to the Sox though that didn't work out very well. There was Ron Santo Pizza though, that was pretty good. I have to admit that I loved his enthusiasm and love for the game. For that I will surely miss him. As for the HOF, when Brooks Robinson went in, Santo should have too, in my opinion. I was going to say something about the Pizza Man in my earlier post but I couldn't remember why they called him that. Thanks.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (SoIL @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 11:24 AM) Looked up Santo's lifetime stats, .277 BA, 342 HR, 1331 RBI, .954 FLD%, ROY, 9 time all star & 5 time GG. I'd certainly take that for a career. During the era he played in, those are damned impressive numbers.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 08:57 AM) B & B should be an interesting listen this afternoon. Bernstein stood by his stance that there are a lot of people who still hate Santo.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 02:16 PM) Bernstein stood by his stance that there are a lot of people who still hate Santo. Count me in.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 02:37 PM) As a boy in Chicago during a time when the Cubs had so many great players on their team Santo was always my favorite. Even though I was a Sox fan I had a place in my heart for Santo. We shared the same 1st name and a love of 3rd base. Santo handled his diabetes with grace and class raising money and spending time with children's diabetic organizations. He seemed to have a good sense of humor and handled aging and being an amputee very well and inspired many in the same position . Rest in peace Ronnie. Great post. I also played third base and loved the fact there were both Santo and Melton to have as "idols" if that's the right word. I haven't lived in Chicago a while but I wonder why anybody would "hate" Santo. I guess there are reasons but he doesn't seem like a hateable figure. I got goosebumps when I saw this thread. Rest in peace, Mr. Santo. It's a sad day in Chicago I'm sure. This is going to get massive publicity and it should in Chicago. Very sad. He's got to be one of the most recognizable names in Chicago sports. Ron Santo is dead. Hard to believe it.
December 3, 201015 yr I have a few family members with diabetes, luckily Type II, and friends with a son that has Type I. Santo did so much to raise money and bring awareness to that cause, hopefully that legacy continues.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:44 PM) Great post. I also played third base and loved the fact there were both Santo and Melton to have as "idols" if that's the right word. I haven't lived in Chicago a while but I wonder why anybody would "hate" Santo. I guess there are reasons but he doesn't seem like a hateable figure. I got goosebumps when I saw this thread. Rest in peace, Mr. Santo. It's a sad day in Chicago I'm sure. This is going to get massive publicity and it should in Chicago. Very sad. He's got to be one of the most recognizable names in Chicago sports. Ron Santo is dead. Hard to believe it. I think he's hated mostly by a generation who never saw him play but only know him as the "homer" announcer that he was on the radio. Sure, as a Sox fan I "hated" him as a Cub and later I took delight whenever I heard him groan "Ooooooh Noooooo" during a broadcast but I'm truly saddened by his death. Edited December 3, 201015 yr by BigEdWalsh
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 02:56 PM) I think he's hated mostly by a generation who never saw him play but only know him as the "homer" announcer that he was on the radio. Sure, as a Sox fan I "hated" him as a Cub and later I took delight whenever I heard him groan "Ooooooh Noooooo" during a broadcast but I'm truly saddened by his death. Not even that he was a homer, he was just a god awful announcer. That being said, he was always entertaining and it certainly sounds like he was a great human and that's what matters most. RIP Ron.
December 3, 201015 yr QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:16 PM) Bernstein stood by his stance that there are a lot of people who still hate Santo. He also added that people dont mention that a LOT of Santo's health problems could have been minimized had he taken better care of himself.
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