So is he just prime trade bait now? Seems like he's blocked for 3 years now. I have no problem trading him with his value being pretty high.

So is he just prime trade bait now? Seems like he's blocked for 3 years now. I have no problem trading him with his value being pretty high.

Perfect time to trade him imo.

What would you guys like to see in return? I'd like a decent reliever and a sold OF but that's probably asking too much unless Dayan is packaged with others.

If we can get a couple nice relievers or a rightfielder or combination of both, yeah, you have to move him now. Or work him out in right next season and hope he can eventually wind up playing there everyday.

What would you guys like to see in return? I'd like a decent reliever and a sold OF but that's probably asking too much unless Dayan is packaged with others.

 

Nick Markakis!?! You said 'like to see'!

I don't see him netting more than a single, high-level reliever. I could still see a Viciedo for Heath bell swap.

Dayan's value is going to be pretty high I think. The question is if we want to make him an OF or not. If not, then he's probably gone. The Sox, if they trade him, aren't going to trade him because they think he sucks or they've given up on him, they'll trade him because he can get them a very good baseball player.

 

I could see the Sox holding on to him this year as insurance though, because if the Sox fail to make the playoffs this year then we probably blow it all up and Paulie and/or Dunn may be gone, opening a spot for Viciedo again.

Nick Markakis!?! You said 'like to see'!

 

I just looked up his contract... wow.

Dayan's value is going to be pretty high I think. The question is if we want to make him an OF or not. If not, then he's probably gone. The Sox, if they trade him, aren't going to trade him because they think he sucks or they've given up on him, they'll trade him because he can get them a very good baseball player.

 

I could see the Sox holding on to him this year as insurance though, because if the Sox fail to make the playoffs this year then we probably blow it all up and Paulie and/or Dunn may be gone, opening a spot for Viciedo again.

I don't think his trade value is as high as we'd like to think. He's so far pretty much limited to 1b based on everything we've seen, and while he's shown extreme power, the saber-side will note his total lack of OBP skills.

I just looked up his contract... wow.

 

Looked like a good deal when it happened. But he's totally regressed the last couple years.

I don't think his trade value is as high as we'd like to think. He's so far pretty much limited to 1b based on everything we've seen, and while he's shown extreme power, the saber-side will note his total lack of OBP skills.

The saber side would be absolutely retarded to undervalue Dayan. They like SLG and OPS don't they? And 21-year-old players?

He's only 21. I'd love to hang on to him this year and plant him in a corner OF spot in Charlotte and see if he can do it. His bat has special power potential and I don't think we'd net enough in trade for him at the moment to make it worth it to trade him.

I'd be game for the Heath Bell deal. I'd also throw him into a package for BJ Upton.

There was some talk albeit I don't know how truthful about him having problems with perception, flyballs etc.

There was some talk albeit I don't know how truthful about him having problems with perception, flyballs etc.

 

I've heard that, but with limited experience and being so young couldn't that always change? I really think it's worth our time to give it a try with him.

In 106 PA at the MLB level Viciedo hit .308/.321/.519/.840 as a 21-year-old rookie. If you multiply that by 5 then in 530 PA that's 35 2B, 25 HR, and while only 10 BBs, that's only 125 K's. Obviously you can't do that, and in a full season there will be ups and downs, but the power numbers could very well be like that as a rookie. Put it this way, in 2011 Viciedo is probably already better than Adam LaRoche. And he's making $1.25M and has 6 years of control left.

I'm probably biggest TCQ fan on this board but I would love if Quentin/Viciedo could bring us a top reliever/RF.

 

 

I'm probably biggest TCQ fan on this board but I would love if Quentin/Viciedo could bring us a top reliever/RF.

 

 

We have a RF'er in CQ. It is stillpossible we see a battler in ST between Viciedo and Morel for that 3B job. Nothing has been handed to anyone that I know of plus we have Teahan in the picture. There are trade possibilities for sure

We have a RF'er in CQ. It is stillpossible we see a battler in ST between Viciedo and Morel for that 3B job. Nothing has been handed to anyone that I know of plus we have Teahan in the picture. There are trade possibilities for sure

The stuff I've heard out of the Org seems to suggest that they really like Morel's glove and think his bat will come around quickly, while they clearly don't trust Viciedo's glove or Teahen's glove or bat at all for 3b.

We have a RF'er in CQ. It is stillpossible we see a battler in ST between Viciedo and Morel for that 3B job. Nothing has been handed to anyone that I know of plus we have Teahan in the picture. There are trade possibilities for sure

We have a dh in rf, we really don't have a rf'er. And 3b is Morel's job.

If we are "All in" lets look at the holes we have on this team. 5th starter and at least one bullpen arm. Viciedo is not that good. If he can be used to get either of these for our "all in" 2011. Trade him now.

If we are "All in" lets look at the holes we have on this team. 5th starter and at least one bullpen arm. Viciedo is not that good. If he can be used to get either of these for our "all in" 2011. Trade him now.

 

All prospects suck, right?

All prospects suck, right?

 

This made me laugh out loud.

I'd really prefer not to deal Viciedo unless it's for a proven BP guy. My biggest fear is him turning into a monster one it clicks on for him. We really don't know what we have on our hands right now with him. He's so young...and you really don't see many guys who have the ball jump off his bat quite like him.

I'd really prefer not to deal Viciedo unless it's for a proven BP guy. My biggest fear is him turning into a monster one it clicks on for him. We really don't know what we have on our hands right now with him. He's so young...and you really don't see many guys who have the ball jump off his bat quite like him.

I would trade him for a dominant, young, cheap closer, or a good, young, team controlled starter. Just a bullpen piece or a mediocre veteran starter wouldn't be enough for me to trade the best positional prospect we have.