April 12, 201114 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 04:17 PM) Maybe Polite as well now that I think about it. This was the guy that came to my mind. That whole bullpen had a mysteriously great year.
April 13, 201114 yr If you actually believe the 2005 team had no cheaters you are one delusional human being.
April 13, 201114 yr I'm sure that at least a few players were taking amphetamines (greenies). Baseball's a dirty sport. We may have cheated less than other teams, but we're not above it.
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) I refuse to believe that A-row wasnt juicing at some point. A good friend of mine caddied for Chris Riley a few years back at the BMW and somehow the White Sox came up during the round and pretty much said that Rowand was a juicer for sure. I believe they were friends or something. I know completely random story..but your belief even without the obvious physical tells has some merit in my book.
April 13, 201114 yr I remember saying that Rowand was an obvious juicer years ago and Steff tearing me a new one because there was just no way it was possible.
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (BFirebird @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 11:49 PM) A good friend of mine caddied for Chris Riley a few years back at the BMW and somehow the White Sox came up during the round and pretty much said that Rowand was a juicer for sure. I believe they were friends or something. I know completely random story..but your belief even without the obvious physical tells has some merit in my book. They must have been real good friends.
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:38 AM) Wow, I REALLY must have missed something... Pablo tested positive??? http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=mlb
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 11:59 PM) I remember saying that Rowand was an obvious juicer years ago and Steff tearing me a new one because there was just no way it was possible. Well seeing as to easily 75% of the fanbase think you're some godless commie if you even hint at the fact that Aaron Rowand wasn't very good, this doesn't surprise me.
April 13, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 07:21 AM) Well seeing as to easily 75% of the fanbase think you're some godless commie if you even hint at the fact that Aaron Rowand wasn't very good, this doesn't surprise me. godless commie.
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 08:58 AM) godless commie. yes? what do you want?
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 07:59 AM) yes? what do you want? I thought he was talking to Brian Anderson
April 13, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 08:01 AM) I thought he was talking to Brian Anderson Anderson is goldengod commie.
April 13, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 07:59 AM) yes? what do you want? you to quit hating on Aaron Rowand. He crashes into stuff.
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (WCSox @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 10:26 PM) I'm sure that at least a few players were taking amphetamines (greenies). Baseball's a dirty sport. We may have cheated less than other teams, but we're not above it. That was baseball player's version of coffee for awhile.
April 13, 201114 yr The Red Sox titles are extremely tainted, since their main two hitters have been accused of roids. Yankees too with A-Rod. At least none of our major contributors from '05 have been caught or mentioned in any reports. Rowand is speculation at this point.
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (tonyho7476 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 03:16 PM) The Red Sox titles are extremely tainted, since their main two hitters have been accused of roids. Yankees too with A-Rod. At least none of our major contributors from '05 have been caught or mentioned in any reports. Rowand is speculation at this point. I mean, from the bullpen people who've been mentioned as roiding...none of them seem to correlate with really good years.
April 13, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 12:31 PM) I mean, from the bullpen people who've been mentioned as roiding...none of them seem to correlate with really good years. Plus guys in the pen have such volitile numbers from year to year anyway. Thing about it, giving up a grand slam adds half of a run to your era for an entire season. It is impossible to tell. Hitters power stats aren't as volitile in general.
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:59 PM) I remember saying that Rowand was an obvious juicer years ago and Steff tearing me a new one because there was just no way it was possible. Her defense of Rowand had something to do with him being a great guy with a great family. Solid stuff. I think I mentioned Manny Ramirez as a suspect in the same thread and was shouted down. Damn search feature.
April 13, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:08 PM) Her defense of Rowand had something to do with him being a great guy with a great family. Solid stuff. I think I mentioned Manny Ramirez as a suspect in the same thread and was shouted down. Damn search feature. Use Google advanced search.
April 13, 201114 yr OK - I went down the rabbit hole for a little while with the google advanced search. And now I forget what I read about the roids issue (was a pretty hot topic a few years ago), but I didn't make a Manny alegation that I was able to find. Milkman and Steff did have a little fight in regard to ARow. Started slow, ended with Steff calling Milkman a douche. I will have to remember not to use google adv search again as it would lead to hours of unproductivity.
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 11:59 PM) I remember saying that Rowand was an obvious juicer years ago and Steff tearing me a new one because there was just no way it was possible. I don't think he did, but it is certainly not out of the realm of possibilities. Everyone has to be looked at with a skeptical eye, and that's unfortunate. But that's what happens when steroids hits a game like it did baseball.
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) OK - I went down the rabbit hole for a little while with the google advanced search. And now I forget what I read about the roids issue (was a pretty hot topic a few years ago), but I didn't make a Manny alegation that I was able to find. Milkman and Steff did have a little fight in regard to ARow. Started slow, ended with Steff calling Milkman a douche. I will have to remember not to use google adv search again as it would lead to hours of unproductivity. Clearly I lost that argument.
April 13, 201114 yr QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 03:32 PM) I don't think he did, but it is certainly not out of the realm of possibilities. Everyone has to be looked at with a skeptical eye, and that's unfortunate. But that's what happens when steroids hits a game like it did baseball. I honestly think there's no way he didn't.
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