Hudson with a CG win.

 

*cue the it doesn't count because it came against the Padres comments*

Isn't Zach Stewart now the prize for Hudson? He looked good his last outing.

Isn't Zach Stewart now the prize for Hudson? He looked good his last outing.

 

We'll need about two dozen more of those before the immovable stench of the Hudson/Jackson trade is disposed of.

Edited September 10, 201114 yr by Jordan4life

We'll need about two dozen more of those before the immovable stench of the Hudson/Jackson trade is disposed of.

 

It doesn't help that Hudson is looking more and more like a young Halladay everyday.

It doesn't help that Hudson is looking more and more like a young Halladay everyday.

Ok, as a person who hated the Hudson trade...that's pushing it. A lot.

He's turned into Bruce Chen when he faces the Sox. Nearly unbeatable.

He's turned into Bruce Chen when he faces the Sox. Nearly unbeatable.

Has he faced the Sox more htan once?

It doesn't help that Hudson is looking more and more like a young Halladay everyday.

 

I wouldn't go that far. But the guy is obviously legit. It really is amazing how stunningly fast that organization has turned around. Call it skill or luck or a combination of both. But in that time frame, they've added their #1 and #2 starters for this year's playoffs, fixed a bullpen that was record-breaking bad in '10 overnight, while at the same time restocking a farm system (Tyler Skaggs, Patrick Corbin, David Holmberg) that now features arguably the deepest collection of legitimate pitching prospects in baseball. Take some f***ing notes, Kenny.

Edited September 10, 201114 yr by Jordan4life

I wouldn't go that far. But the guy is obviously legit. It really is amazing had stunningly fast that organization has turned around. Call it skill or luck or a combination of both. But in that time frame, they've added their #1 and #2 starters for this year's playoffs, fixed a bullpen that was record-breaking bad in '10 overnight, while at the same time restocking a farm system (Tyler Skaggs, Patrick Corbin, David Holmberg) that now features arguably the deepest collection of legitimate pitching prospects in baseball. Take some f***ing notes, Kenny.

It he were a hitter, Greg Walker would be the issue. How come no issue with Cooper? He clearly didn't perform very well for the White Sox last year.

It he were a hitter, Greg Walker would be the issue. How come no issue with Cooper? He clearly didn't perform very well for the White Sox last year.

Because he got a whopping 3 games worth of chances.

 

If you watched him, you could actually see that the kid had good stuff, but he was clearly doing what a lot of rookies try to do...he was trying to spot the ball ont he corner on every pitch. He was trying to make every pitch perfect instead of letting hitters get themselves out.

 

There was good velocity, good movement, good control, but he was walking a lot more people than he did in AAA, because it's really hard to throw a perfect pitch every time, and when you're walking people and falling behind, suddenly you have to make a perfect pitch.

 

It takes rookie pitchers a while to get to the stage where they just come out and trust what they're doing. We dumped him without giving him a chance.

Because he got a whopping 3 games worth of chances.

 

If you watched him, you could actually see that the kid had good stuff, but he was clearly doing what a lot of rookies try to do...he was trying to spot the ball ont he corner on every pitch. He was trying to make every pitch perfect instead of letting hitters get themselves out.

 

There was good velocity, good movement, good control, but he was walking a lot more people than he did in AAA, because it's really hard to throw a perfect pitch every time, and when you're walking people and falling behind, suddenly you have to make a perfect pitch.

 

It takes rookie pitchers a while to get to the stage where they just come out and trust what they're doing. We dumped him without giving him a chance.

 

People forget that one of those three starts was dominating

Hudson with a CG win.

 

*cue the it doesn't count because it came against the Padres comments*

 

Wins are only suppose to be meaningless when it comes to "ace John Danks".

 

I watched that game last night until the 6th. They faced a rookie with a great curve ball.

 

The DBs aren't exactly a offensive juggernaut either. Hudsons been doing pretty good at the plate for a pitcher.

 

It he were a hitter, Greg Walker would be the issue. How come no issue with Cooper? He clearly didn't perform very well for the White Sox last year.

 

 

Then you have to give the White Sox/Cooper credit for (the opposite of Hudson) being patient with Humber....whereas the Mets, Twins and Royals clearly were not, as I think he only had 3-4 starts combined amongst those three teams before we pilfered him from the A's roster.

Ok, as a person who hated the Hudson trade...that's pushing it. A lot.

 

I think he has that potential, he has to live up to it of course over a long period of time. I'm still concerned that Hudson may have elbow issues in the near future.

I think he has that potential, he has to live up to it of course over a long period of time. I'm still concerned that Hudson may have elbow issues in the near future.

He clearly has the potential to be a solid player...but Roy Halladay is a hall of fame pitcher. That, IMO, makes the comparison almost useless...because even 99% of the people with Roy Halladay's "Potential" don't wind up as hall of famers.

He clearly has the potential to be a solid player...but Roy Halladay is a hall of fame pitcher. That, IMO, makes the comparison almost useless...because even 99% of the people with Roy Halladay's "Potential" don't wind up as hall of famers.

 

I know, but I think he is capable of being that good. I'll stand by my comparison.

Hudson vs Marcum, Sunday at 3:37, Miller Park

Hudson vs Marcum, Sunday at 3:37, Miller Park

 

Let's Go Brew Crew!!!

5.1 IP, 9 H, 5 ER, Halladay-esque.

5.1 IP, 9 H, 5 ER, Halladay-esque.

 

lol. Who the hell ever compared him to Halladay?

lol. Who the hell ever compared him to Halladay?

 

 

It doesn't help that Hudson is looking more and more like a young Halladay everyday.

 

 

 

And LH just owned J4L. I totally forgot about that. Damn you, JPN.

And LH just owned J4L. I totally forgot about that. Damn you, JPN.

 

I'll give LH that (it was a bad comparison), but jumping on a guy who just pitched his first ever playoff game is way too harsh. Not every young pitcher can be Matt Moore.

Edited October 3, 201114 yr by SoxAce

I'll give LH that (it was a bad comparison), but jumping on a guy who just pitched his first ever playoff game is way too harsh. Not every young pitcher can be Matt Moore.

Saying "Daniel Hudson is not Roy Halladay" ≠ jumping on Daniel Hudson.

I knew this thread would be bumped in record time.

I knew this thread would be bumped in record time.

At least IMO, "He's no Roy Halladay" really isn't a harsh criticism.