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Tigers @ Sox 7/26/11 Gamethread

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 09:30 PM)
Yep, if only we had another starter in our organization besides Buerhle, Jackson, Danks and Floyd that can give you a real good 5 innings but might struggle later in games.

Just let Humber pitch 6 and let Peavy finish his games.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:29 PM)
Holy s***, did he really say that? He's the same idiot that would probably let a 16 game winner with a 6 ERA start game 1 in the postseason over a 10 game winner with a 2 ERA.

 

Yes, he absolutely did. A reporter asked him about Peavy hitting 75 pitches and then breaking down, and that was his response. He also said "I don't know how many pitches he had tonight, but he had trouble in the sixth." Unreal. I don't understand how someone could be so incompetent and ignorant.

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 11:27 PM)
Please, go ahead and point me to a win that was due to Ozzie's great managing skillz.....I'll probably be waiting a while.

 

Had Ozzie known his personnel and pulled Peavy after 5, Thornton wouldn't have been in the position to blow the game.

I think 99.5% of the games are on the players. You don't what would have happened if Peavy was pulled. Maybe Humber comes in and gets torched too. I'm sure Peavy told them he was fine to go. I would think most manager's are going give a former Cy Young winner the benefit of the doubt and let him get back out there. I'll agree he probably should have had someone warming but there's still no way to tell what would have happened.

Well, sounds like we just traded Jackson for a righty reliever

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:28 PM)
it actually is scary how many former players come back to beat he Sox

 

The Sox are still gettin raped from that Swisher deal.

 

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:30 PM)
Yep, if only we had another starter in our organization besides Buerhle, Jackson, Danks and Floyd that can give you a real good 5 innings but might struggle later in games.

 

6 of 1 half a dozen of another. You bring in Humber in the 6th inning of this game and see where it goes. Real f***ing simple for anyone named named ozzie guillen. Off day thursday allows you to get back on a rotation or skip Peavy's next start and go with Humber which they should do anyway.

 

Cooper and guillen are both looking bad in this situation

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:33 PM)
Well, sounds like we just traded Jackson for a righty reliever

 

How does this help the Sox? Pitching has not been the problem.

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This team is so unlikeable.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:33 PM)
Well, sounds like we just traded Jackson for a righty reliever

 

then there should be an all out firesale as this season is toast with peavy and humber unable to go more than 5 innings

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:33 PM)
I think 99.5% of the games are on the players.

 

It would be hard pressed to get anyone to bite on that theory around here.

 

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 09:35 PM)
then there should be an all out firesale as this season is toast with peavy and humber unable to go more than 5 innings

really?

 

really?

 

humber has been our best starter by far. if there's one person who can escape criticism - it should be him

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:35 PM)
This team is so unlikeable.

 

At least this week they haven't appeared lifeless.

 

Aside from Rios, you mean.

The sox can't white flag this from a financial perspective they need to remain in playoff contention so they can retain season ticket holders with the potential for playoff tickets, if they fall out of contention I would guess they will lose a huge amount of ST holders and the payroll will need to be slashed DRAMATICALLY (meaning we won't compete again while we have Dunn, PK, Rios, Peavy contracts).

 

Surgical trades that makes sense and selling strenghts to cover weaknesses makes sense but a fire sale I don't see happening as Reinsdorf might as well sell the team and retire if he wants to see them win again in his lifetime. I see some tinkering with the knowledge that the division is going to be winnable every year (especially with some of the contracts/injuries the twins have had).

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:36 PM)
really?

 

really?

 

humber has been our best starter by far. if there's one person who can escape criticism - it should be him

 

not a criticism just that there is a very good likelihood that he will tire and wear down

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:46 AM)
not a criticism just that there is a very good likelihood that he will tire and wear down

 

Yeah, he was merely pointing out it is looking like Philip may not be much more than a 5-6 inning guy the rest of the way.

Hopefully he'll regain a second wind.

Is this reliever we are getting any good? At least we don't have to see Teahen any more.

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